Why you shouldn't jump the fare

The little rat deserved it

 

The big guy was probably on his way back from work, or maybe on his way to start a shift.....An obnoxious little * is holding up an entire train load of people trying to go about their business? That's not on.....If you ask me the wee * got off lightly....Some guys would have bounced him down the aisle and cracked his jaw before booting him off the train.

Maybe the fact that he was such a scrawny little runt saved him from that....Well done to the 'Big Guy' for showing restraint!

 

i'm shocked their is anyone on the side of the ned to be honest. the conductor looks about the same age as my grandfather and he is being spoken to like a piece of * by some jaked up wee ned.

well done the big man i say. the fact he is now possibly going to be charged with assault is a damning indictment on todays society more than his actions imo.

 

Yes I have three kids, one of them a son....If I had seen a video of him behaving like that on a train (or anywhere else) for that matter...I would have picked him up and slammed him to the ground again when I got my hands on him.

People need to take responsability for their actions....If you want to behave like a total fud in public and be obnoxious then you need to accept that just maybe one day a member of the said public isn't going to accept your behavior and will respond to your behaviour in kind. That kid got taught a lesson his father should have taught him years ago....If you act like a c^nt you get treated like a c^nt. :icon_mrgreen:

 

The boy was asked to leave the train by someone representing the management of the train. Weather he actually did pay or not is irrelevant he couldn't produce proof he did so the old guy had every right to ask him to leave.

The big man has no right to step in and man handle the boy in the eye's of the law even if most people feel he was morally justified... The old guy shouldn't be asking other passengers to remove people from the train either, I can't imagine his bosses would be too happy about that.

 

brilliant

 

My thoughts exactly. My son is only 3 but if I seen him behaving like that when he's older then I know exactly what he'd get..a swift boot to the baws.

 

Had to check again there to see if I had clicked the Rangers Media link by mistake, cos some of the comments on here are nothing short of disgusting..

So, some people on here would actually slam their own children off the ground for being cheeky to an incompetant train conductor? Surely by slamming your own kid or indeed booting them in the baws, is infact teaching them to resort to violence when someone is behaving in an unapropriate manner? Sorry, but I dont hit my kid..I think its more better to have a very stern word if they done wrong. Teach them manners from an early age and show them to think of how people feel and how it affects them by their wrongful actions..

What should have happened on that train is the conductor should have told him the police will be waiting for him at the next stop OR his name and address should have been taken and he would have been billed for not having the fare WHICH IS A POLICY OF ALL PUBLIC TRANSPORT...I should know as its happened to me. OR someone with a bit of decency should have stood up and said you know what...I'll pay his fare rather than let it escalate into something worse..I know I would have and have indeed done before!

What good would it have done papping the boy off in the middle of nowhere? He still had to get home and probably would have had the same situation on his next train journey.

If you look and listen to the video again you will hear members of the public telling the fat aggressive thug that there was no need for doing what he done! Are they wrong too?

Some people need to take a long look at themselves if they think the only way in resolving this matter was to resort to violence....SHOCKIN!

 

In sum, the three main protagonists in this story come out of it rather badly.

 

Exactly..but mostly and rightly the conductor who didnt do his job properly. He should and will be repremanded for incompetance and the fat thug will also be done for GBH or at least assault..the boy will also be done with breach.

 

No as if the young guy was mugging a pensioner or robbing a house, he was a couple of quid or whatever short of payin a train fare. Does this merit getting hauled off a train by someone much bigger than you who has no direct interest in the matter? Seems the news are grabbing onto this story and applauding the vigilante, so the wee guy gave the conductor cheek, it's how many people react in situations like that if they aren't used to handling them. If the conductor let the train carry on and organised for the police to be at the next stop it would have solved this matter with relative ease.

 

its made the ch5 news just watched it the big man is thought to be a fire fighter.

 

Away you go with your Rangers Media pish.

It's not exactly a young kid, it's at least a teenage boy who is being purposely difficult, not just mouthing off and showing a complete lack of respect to an older guy doing his job but also holding a train full of people up. I don't think anybody here would genuinely 'slam their son to the ground' for acting like that or even boot them in the baws but any parent I'm sure wouldn't let it go lightly.

Btw, what puts you in a position to criticise how other people bring up their children, wether it be a passive remark or not?

 

Exactly..the conductor kept saying "I'm gettin paid for this"..well if youre gettin paid for it do the job PROPERLY..he was trying to get the public involved by saying "aw these people are gonna get mad" which led to someone committing a crime.

The boy wasnt a few quid short..he had actually paid for a single that day so initially he must have been short of about 50 pence for a return..do you think he would have put himself through the embarressment for the sake of 50 pence or so?? I think the boy genuinely must have been short of the money but still needed to get home.

Its true, people act defensively and sometimes aggressively when being embarressed infront of a watching crowd and the boy didnt handle it too well.

 

So basically it's the big man's fault, the train conductors fault, and all the other passengers fault for not paying his fare for him??? Are you on the right * planet????

I'm almost certain the person who said he would slam his kid to the ground was joking, So enough with the RM comparisons......

 

What puts me in the position? being told that they would use acts of violence to their own kid if they spoke to someone like that..

Read what I said again, I wasnt telling anyone how they should raise their kids..I was saying what works for me.

 

I think your just picking with that point. Like I said, I wouldn't genuinely give my son a boot in the baws but no way would he get off lightly for that. Others may give him a clout and I certainly wouldn't criticise them for it, each to their own.

 

No I'm basically saying the conductor should have done his job properly and got the police at the next stop or took his name, address and billed him..it usually works out to be 5 times what the actual fare was..as I said..its happened to me so I know about this policy..

I didnt say it was the passengers fault for not paying the fare, I'm saying thats what I would have done and have done before. But hey,, thats just me.

 

No mate, I never taught my kids to resort to violence, but what I did do is at a very early age I taught them that there is a consequence to their actions....good and bad...when they behaved they got a small reward.....when they were misbehaving they got punished, the punishment could have been them getting kept in after school...not allowed out to play with their friends....a smack across the legs, bed early...no tv....etc etc. Maybe I did something wrong, I got no manual with the kids when they were born....but today my son is 33 years old....No criminal record at all, has worked since the day he left school, has a lovely bought house in a nice little estate and is bringing up two lovely, well behaved children of his own.

I wish you all the best in bringing up your own Kids, each to their own as they say.

 

It depends what you mean by a clout? If someone gave my kid a slap across the head for cheek then so be it..but if someone actually picked them up and threw them sidewards from a train then I actually think I'd go crazy..what that guy done was bang out of order and dont think it should be commended.