why is there an obsession with rangers going bust instead of celtic going forward

"why is there an obsession with rangers going bust instead of celtic going forward"


May I ask the OP to provide any proof he has to the ridiculous claim within the title of this thread?

 

If Rangers went bust it would be one of the biggest things to happen in the history of Scottish football. Similarly, whatever the decisions are around this could shape our game for the next decade at least if not longer. I dont think people are "obsessed" in any way - it is just very interesting and very important.

 

Because people really do get excited about this as you can see from this vid...[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKMiCq3z5mM&list=HL1336757714&feature=mh_lolz"]As news of Rangers FC's administration... - YouTube[/ame]

 

So you think that we won't prosper if Hun FC are not in the SPL, meaning that we actually NEED them. My short answer to that one is bullshit. It's bad enough when people outwith Celtic say that but when Celtic fans say it, it's even worse because it's pandering to the myth.

I take it Lawwell doesn't care about Celtic's benefit either even though he came out and said himself that we don't need them.

I'd like to know as to why you think we need them. If it's to do with money then weight it up. We play them at the * pit twice minimum a season and we get about £350,000 for each match, so that's £700,000 for just those two matches. Celtic wouldn't miss that kind of money. Sell a fringe player that we don't need and that's it recuperated there alone. The TV deal's from ESPN and Sky will still be in place whether Hun FC are in the SPL or not because the companies have said that themselves, so we'd still get TV money.

If it's not to do with money then I'd like to hear it.

The "obsession" that Celtic fans seemingly have about them as they are going through all this is BECAUSE it's them. It would be the exact same if it were Man Utd going through this * - Liverpool fans would be queuing up to dance on their graves. It's the rivalry. If it were St Mirren going through this there wouldn't be as much hyperbole towards them BUT it would still be viewed that if they done the exact same as what Hun FC had done then they should still not be entered into the SPL as a Newco. ANY team should have to start at the bottom.

The way you're putting it across is that we need a Newco hun team in the SPL (even though they cheated for years) for us to prosper. So, if it was any other Newco team eg Aberdeen or Dundee Utd, then we wouldn't prosper as much and could survive so it would be ok for them to start at the bottom.

Hypocritical ruling and you would fit in well with the SPL/SFA.

 

An obsession with Rangers going bust instead of Celtic going forward?

Ridiculous idea. Some people have been listening to too many Rangers fans.

 

Morally bankrupt

DECISION ... Neil Doncaster
Pic: Kenny Ramsay
By DES McKEOWN
Published: 3 minutes ago
THE chairmen of our SPL clubs need to ‘man-up’ and grow a big pair of cojones.
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Rather than justifying why a newco Rangers is needed in our top league, they should be putting sporting integrity before cash.

Those are the stark choices for the men involved.

Kilmarnock’s Michael Johnston and Dundee United’s Stephen Thompson have spoken about the dilemma facing the SPL and how difficult a position they are in.

Well, I’m sorry boys — there’s never actually been an easier decision to make. If the clubs put money before principle and allow a newco Rangers straight back into the SPL, our game will officially be bankrupt of any morality whatsoever.

After all, what they would effectively be saying is that the Old Firm could NEVER be relegated because of their monetary value.

That is wrong and unforgivable for a sport to admit as much.

Sure, without Rangers the clubs would need to realign their wage structure and they would also have to work a * sight harder commercially to survive.

Having said that, it’s got to be better than destroying any credibility the league has. If football clubs are in existence because of the money Rangers or Celtic generate for them, it’s time for them to take a step back and think again.

After all, given that both Celtic and Rangers have been trying to escape to England over the last decade or so, the other clubs should have already been planning to stand tall on their own two feet rather than living off their coat tails.

To run any business like that is bordering on negligent.

If my business partner and I budgeted our company finances as heavily on the contribution of our two largest clients we would be neglecting our responsibilities as directors of the firm and our duties to our staff and suppliers.

Other businesses will know exactly where I’m coming from. Sure, things will be good for a while, but when either of those clients leave, we would have a major problem.

That’s exactly what the SPL clubs have allowed to happen. They have spent money based on commercial activities they cannot affect for far too long.

Rangers’ situation should make them realise they are vulnerable operating in that manner.

Each club should base their budget on the home fans they have every week and not take into account ANY travelling support.

That number added to any self-generated revenue streams such as sponsorship, corporate hospitality, advertising, shirt sales, commercial activities and any other GUARANTEED payments is what should be forming the overall projected turnover of the business now.

Any opposing fans, TV money, cup runs and SPL payments should be considered as bonuses and could be added to the following season’s budget, as it’s money already received, or simply put into the bank to help reduce the debts at a club.

I’ll make no excuse for saying this, but if less money means lower wages and fewer players then that’s the way it has to be.

Of course, on a more positive note, clubs could concentrate even harder on bringing through their own young players who don’t cost as much and could be sold for considerable profit if they develop them properly.

It’s time to accept that, even with Celtic and Rangers, there is not enough money to carry the current squads and wage structures.

Scottish football will never be a rich environment and it won’t ever be able to compete with the English leagues on finance.

We should accept that and simply do the best we can.

But that doesn’t mean we can’t develop players and build an even stronger national side.

Tell me which Serbian, Croatian, Polish, Danish, Irish or Czech Republic club is awash with cash? Didn’t think so. Even with weak leagues their nations still have players who are plying their trade in the top leagues across Europe. There is nothing to stop Scotland doing the same.

Alternatively, the SPL and chief executive Neil Doncaster can welcome a new Rangers into their fold and continue to scrape by as if nothing had ever happened.

Well, other than selling their souls to the Devil.



Read more: http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sco...rs-back-in-would-shame-SPL.html#ixzz1ubf7cl78

for once the sun come up with a cracking piece that is straight to the point and says it how it is

 

All the panic merchants seem to be forgetting something.
We have flourished over the last 10 years DESPITE their cheating, and that was through forward commercial thinking and creative management.
We will continue to flourish whether they die or end up in the junior league, DO NOT believe the Laptop Loyal when they tell you we need them, what we need for this league more than ever is a sense of integrity which the SFA has never been able to deliver.
If that now has to be delivered through the fans, then that is surely the first step to believing we can make real change to this shoddy establishment that has crippled us for decades.

 

Of course Lawwell has said if there was no Rangers we would still survive. Do you expect him to say anything else?? Of course we will survive. Thats pretty obvious as we are a well run club that would adapt to whatever circumstances we had to. Tell me this though, why hasnt he came out and said he would vote no to allow a newco Rangers into the spl?? We have heard from Dundee Utd , Dunfermline and Kilmarnock so why hasnt he came out and said exactly what he thinks?? All he has said is that he would what was "best for Celtic football club".

Why do we need them?? We dont.

Why would it be more beneficial ?? Well for a start the 2 games at the * pit you mention, we dont make a penny from them. You also say the the tv deal will still be there so according to your logic we wont lose a single pound if they were not there. Thats bollocks in my opinion. Sky have a clause in their contract which states if there isnt 4 old firm games then the deal collapses . This is the same reason why there will never be an 18 team spl. The old firm game is one of sky's best sellers and the "only reason" they bother paying a hefty figure for scottish football. No old firm games = no sky deal = income down about £2m. If we are not on sky every 2nd week and there is no old firm games being beamed live all over the world then our shirt sponsorship isnt worth nearly as much as it is now. When an old firm game gets shown all over britain and the world at Celtic park our pitch side advertising is worth a fortune also for the 2 games. No old firm game then you also take that away. Its also our only sell out for the season these days. No Rangers in the spl then the need for a season ticket is highly diminished. Season ticket sales have been falling every year for the last few years so they would only get worse as people could pick and choose their games. Add all these things together and it adds up to a good few million that we cant afford to lose of our budget every season.

Do we need Rangers to survive??? NO !!!
Would we be in a better financial position with them in the spl ?? YES !!!

 

the bit in bold is actually wrong and is just a press driven rumour with no proof

 

No its not . No rangers = No sky deal.

 

Mate unless you are the one in negotiations you simply do not know that to be true. Also, the representitive of ESPN who are part of it, has dismissed it and said they are happy with their involvement in Scottish football. The only thing that can be assumed is that if the huns are not there it will be a reduced deal.

 

says who? only people telling me that are the horrible huns I work with

 

can you back that up with proof from an official source and not a newspaper article with no quotes

 

fisher price yer sussed out away back tae RM sick of reading your pish

 

Yes

 

then do it and by the way I mean the new deal not the current deal which is about to expire

 

Sussed out?? What are you on about?? My name isnt Fisher price either. Or are just deliberetly trying to wind me up for some reason rather than have a conversation like most adults would??

 

if the shoe fits............ serious question now do you enjoy jelly n ice cream?