War it is!

I see the US is to Build Three Military Bases in Kurdistan Region, even before it becomes a country, and right along the Iranian border...

http://basnews.com/en/News/Details/US-to-Build-Three-Military-Bases-in-Kurdistan-Region/35489

Future war with Iran, prob on Hillaries watch.....

 

Think a new name change is in order for someone. Can you guess who it is?

angUSSRceltic67. :smiley-laughing002:

 

Don't shell Iraq,my achy achy Iraq.

 

But wee vlad is the one true and honest world leader we can trust ...

Although I did enjoy the attempt to link world conspiracies and the result in our referendum, which just came across as desperate.

 

You cannot defeat an Ideoligy by bombing certain countries and areas, as they will just disperse.

When you look at the map of ISIS controlled areas, you can see that their supply routes are coming from Turkey and Jordan. Blocking these routes is the key to how you would begin to turn the tide of ISIS...Not bombing them at the other end...

 

A just don't think you'll allahstand

 

As bombs start dropping in Syria and Iraq, the world is once again being asked to cower in fear of a shadowy terror group that most people hadn't heard of just a few months ago. But even the most cursory examination of ISIS's past, its connections, and the actors populating it reveal a very different story than the one we are being asked to believe in. Fake terrorists. Foreign backers. False flags. Meet the new boogeyman, same as the old boogeyman.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LSIwvE0Nvo"]Who Is REALLY Behind ISIS? - YouTube[/ame]

 

You can't just create a caliphate it does not work like that. If it was that easy then all one billion Sunni Muslims would unite and support Isis. But are they doing that?! No quite the opposite. Just because some nut job labels himself the true Caliphate it don't make him one. Bombing Iraq, bombing the middle east is already kicking a hornets nest. The west continued invasions and meddling have created these problems. You can't defeat an ideology by bombing it. The UK and USA bombing of I.S is a short term solution with long term consequences.

In the end these radical groups will have to unite and when that happens the * storm truly starts. The modern sunni vs shia power conflict is really just two groups being used by the west and Russia. We will see Israel vs hezbollah again but in the future the Sunni radicals will be used to fight Iran for Israel, but they won't actually know they are fighting for Israel, That's the clever bit of the plan.

The future is a weak middle east that can be easily controlled and it's oil and gas taken by the west. Israel will be rich and will expand. The gulf arabs states will continue as they are and Saudi will support and push for the destruction on Iran. But terrorism will be much worse than it is now in the middle east and Europe. Which again is the plan; create an enemy that thinks it's fighting it's oppressors when really it's being played and molded by it's own enemy. It's masterful plan, genius but pure evil. And the people will cry out for our governments to protect us like we are seeing now.

 

Cameron wants to ban free speach, it seams we,ve all just to watch the BBC etc, and repeat that world view as our own, or we are as bad as the terrorists (he helped to create)...

Couldn,t make this * up man.....

Watch from about 4.30 onwards

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuwOfQI8YA8"]David Cameron UN Speech United Nations PM David Cameron ISIS UK Parliament Votes Approves Airstrikes - YouTube[/ame]

I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
Voltaire

 

Calling someone a hate preacher for saying Muslims are persecuted all over the world while a large section of our society want burkhas banned and are racist towards Muslims, while announcing that your bombing another predominantly Muslim country(I think 7 in 10 years for the US)

 

So our fearless leaders vote in favour of bombing ISIS, a terrorist organisation that exists solely due to our illegal war in Iraq and us backing the losing side in Syria. Estimated cost to UK taxpayer is £3 billion.
Will airstrikes result in civilian casualties? Absolutely.
Will civilian casualties result in increased membership for ISIS? Undoubtedly.
Will something worse take their place in the unlikely event of a “victory”? History would suggest so.

That same £3 billion could have paid for 300 secondary schools or 60 fully functioning hospitals in the UK.

ISIS are a horrible shower of * but if we actually cared about doing something useful internationally we could have helped rescue the 219 Nigerian schoolgirls that were kidnapped by Boko Haram, or built some NGO’s to help combat the outbreak of Ebola in West Africa. The difference is ISIS control an oil field and to our government $$$ are worth more than African kids. At least these things are usually over and done with quickly though.....right?

This is the cycle of * we voted to remain part of. For the record the largest political party in Scotland voted against military intervention, but we are dragged in nonetheless as we do not get to dictate our own foreign policy.

 

So a problem caused through bombing and invading the middle east, will be solved by bombing and invading the middle east...

 

That is because they are hate preachers.

Real Muslims don't preach hate, only idiots do in the guise of Islam.

ISIS do need to be wiped out, no question, but how? Air-strikes will only make the problem worse, while doing nothing allows their crimes to go unanswered. It is a catch-22.

Arab nations, along with Iran, needs to pull their fingers out and do the job themselves.

 

Aye because Muslims would never persecute anybody else unless it's to do with equal rights for women ( who they beat) equal rights for the lgbt community (who they murder) or people of a different faith ( north's points covered that) people of no faith ( which is also a death penalty) yea but beyond that there a great bunch of lads

 

It is a human right to question information received. asking legitimate questions about an incident like 9/11 should not make you a terrorist guilty of thought crime.

Maybe if we had more people Questioning govt actions and motives in the past, the world might not be in this situation...

Sometimes it feels like I,m living in an ever repetative bad dream...

 

You can't debate the points being made, so you resort to this?

That's not a very convincing rebuttal.

 

Eh?

all Muslims?

* you on about?

Are you Nigel Farage?

 

Sure you know the craic, its the same Brit apologists coming out with the same * every time...

Best just to ignore bro

 

Just saying Muslims persecute as well I'm talking about Muslims in a religious sense not ethnically

 

How much is this latest war costing... 3 billion over 2 years? Better together.

Who gives a * if these bombs wipe out innocent people and radicalize thousands.