Tom Daley expecting a baby with his husband

Why is that an offer? Are you going to turn up from your far flung home in a dress and try and patronise me...if so drop me a PM...

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-43093154

I see the daily mail are getting it in the neck for their take on the subject.

As much as I detest the Daily Mail and would be delighted to see them die tomorrow, I feel that I am with them in this instance. I dont see how their views on this, at least as reported by the BBC, are 'homophobic'? Seems silly to claim they are just because you disagree with them.

 

Can't believe what I've just read about the rabbis sucking the babies peckers. Serious to *, * goes through people's heads! Definitely someone not right in the head started that *.

As for the child being brought up in a loving environment. What even is a loving environment anyway, because anyone I know have all been dragged up through the years.

Like I said in previous threads, I have nothing against anyone who's gay however I have an issue on these designer babies in test tubes getting sold off to the highest bidder. Just another sign of this * up world. Imagine growing up knowing you where a testtuber and having 2 das. All I know, I wouldn't like to be that child.

 

Nope, it's just true.

While patronising you wouldn't be difficult, if I were a teacher that wouldn't be my teaching style. However, your insecurity shines right through your posts, so some education on these types of topics would do you the world of good.

 

Claiming a child benefits the most by being raised by a man and a woman is homophobic. It's a subverted way of saying homosexual parents are less capable.

 

I completely disagree. I havent thought about it enough but I probably intuitively feel that a mum and a dad is the optimal set up for a child. Yet I also support the rights of gay people to adopt, get married, and anything else. It is possible to absolutely support the rights of gay people and feel no hostility to them whatsoever, but also concede that a traditional mum/dad family unit is optimal. I dont see any conflict in that.

 

Thread title is heavy fear

 

For me it's optimal that the child is loved and brought up properly. The * of the parents shouldn't even be a consideration. It's like saying black parents shouldn't adopt a white kid because it wouldn't look right.

If you really think about it, there's a homophobic undertone as it really shouldn't be an issue.

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That isnt the same at all. My 1 year old has a different relationship with his mum as he does with me. When he has a cold or is ill he only wants cuddles from his mum. It is the only way he gets to sleep when he is not feeling great. Even at a couple of months just hearing my wifes heart beat was enough to calm him down.

That isnt because I am a bad parent and Im sure he doesnt care if daddy is gay or straight. But I am not the same as his mum. I didnt breast feed him for the first 6 months of his life because I cant. I didnt have him in my belly for 9 months because I cant. To me, having that relationship with a mother is optimal. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the sexuality of anyone.

 

Aye I do get that... I'm taking more about the adoption side of the of the argument.

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I think children benefit most from having two parents in the household.

Regardless of *, sexuality or anything else I believe a child benefits most if they have two parents in the house. I don't think a child's growth would be much different on a the scale of worse or better if they had two dads or two mums or a mum and dad

 

Good for them.


Non-story, moving on.

 

2 loving gay parents will undoubtedly be better for a child than 2 unloving heterosexual parents.

That said, 2 loving heterosexual parents trumps 2 loving homosexual parents, for me.

 

For me if the child is adopted there's no difference.

I can see an argument for two loving natural parents.

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Who gets this job ?

 

I agree. I think the adoption argument is a no brainer and to be fair to the daily mail writer he said the same. A loving household is better than not regardless of who makes up that house, in the same way a fantastic single parent is much better than two * parents. But I dont think he was out of line to state that the optimal set up for a child is a mum and a dad.

 

I'm not aware of any evidence or study that supports your claim. If you know of one, I'd love to read it.

 

The idea that a child will have its best outcome under just a hetrosexual couple and nothing else is a purely arbitrary opinion based on personal opinion as opposed to any scientific basis.

 

You're a homophobe, bigot and *.

One of the worst posts I've ever seen on this forum and all it does is make you come across as a complete *. I'm all for discussion, but this is the sort of thing you'd expect to read on Hun Media.

 

Really?