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[Link] Timothy Castagne

Discussion in 'Transfer Rumours' started by Officer Doofy, Dec 26, 2018.

Discuss Timothy Castagne in the Transfer Rumours area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    Yep
     
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  2. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    Hendry had 1 tick from 4 and that was just by chance that he’s a centre half.
     
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  3. Jeremie Frimpong

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    Hendry ticks all of those boxes now. I can list dozens of substandard football players who tick all of those boxes.

    Those details are trivial, if not irrelevant. His ability and personality, among other things, will determine whether or not he is a success at Celtic.
     
  4. Gabriel Beidh an lá linn Gold Member

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    With a good scout you could also uncover players like Vic & VVD. With Brendan's ability to improve players this model could be even more lucrative than it was in the past. It's also possible that Lenny has not been given the credit for his ability to improve players.
     
  5. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    The issue we've had in the past is spending stupid money on dross from the big leagues...namely England
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    Shopping at bargain basement is too much of a risk. You spend a million on a striker, he flops, you'll maybe get your million back.
    You spend a million on a striker, he does well, you sell for 8-10million.

    Needless to say, spend 6million on this guy (obviously always a risk) and he does well, we will double that no problem in a few years. If he flops,we will probably still recoup the large majority of that back anyway.

    If we want to step up the level of player we have, we need to take these higher valued risks. Otherwise we keep buying 1million rated players for the next ten years and inflation will deem that player will probably be worse than previous attempts at that range.

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  6. Gabriel Beidh an lá linn Gold Member

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    I meant having a scout who would have spotted the talent previous to the Leicester bid. The EPL teams are looking for a more polished/finished player whereas we could target raw talent with the hope of improving it. Even a below 50% success rate will still yields us decent profit. We could well afford a couple of misses for every VVD/Vic

    Also teams will inflate the price of their players when teams from the moneybags EPL come looking
     
  7. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    He certainly isn’t ‘young’ or as young as he’s made out to be anyway. There’s 9 months between him and Jozo, for example. He has European experience and international caps purely because he’s a Celtic player, not because he’s European or international class.

    The point with Castagne is, 6 million is a steal for a young Belgian international in the current market.
     
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  8. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Even then we were linked with Benkovic a year before Leicester bid and the quoted price was around £9-10m IIRC.

    I definitely do agree those are the markets we should exploit the most.
     
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  9. Gabriel Beidh an lá linn Gold Member

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    We have shopped bargain basement previously and made money doing so. We have also gotten many top quality players for low prices. If we shop bargain basement in the big leagues we end up with players like Compper but with a good scout we can afford misses if we get the right hits.

    I would not be against us splashing out on a tried and tested CH/striker as these are areas we are particularly weak in and I I don't to agree with the old system of only making large surpluses on transfers.

    Edit:I remember the last time we bought a full back with such a high pedigree. He was also breaking into the world cup finalists team but he actually came from a much better club. How excited I would have been if we were buying him for £6million instead of getting him on loan:67:
     
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  10. Jeremie Frimpong

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    That is my point: there are plenty of substandard players with impressive CVs, so even if Castagne ticks all of those boxes, we should remain prudent.

    We have to be close to certain that a player will make a significant contribution to our team if we are going to spend a significant sum of money to acquire his services, and we can only glean that from accurate and extensive scouting reports.

    Our player recruitment in recent years has been questionable to say the least, so some of us are understandably apprehensive about the potential fee involved (even though we would all like to see significant investment in the team).

    On an optimistic note, if the people at the club who are responsible for player recruitment have done their jobs properly ahead of this transfer window, this could be a very shrewd signing.
     
  11. dbhoy72

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    Tim Cahill next then?
     
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    Haven’t most of our recent big money signings proven to be good though? Eddy, Ntcham, Sinclair....

    Suggests they do that extra bit of homework?
     
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    1 I watched was mostly or all of his Atalanta spell and he looked basic as * for me as well..

    I'd have to see more of him as I know YouTube can make you look a star or garbage. Barely any in between but didn't see much..

    I'd rather go for Bartolec who we were rumoured to be interested in. He looks fantastic and just breaking in to the full Croatian setup. No doubt be cheaper coming from Denmark whereas if 6 mill for this guy is true, Atalanta are charging premium because he's a Belgian international..
     
  14. clonbhoy

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    I know nothing about the guy, but the fee is only relevant to what our transfer policy is. Are we seeing a change in tactic here? If there is more confidence in the academy providing cover for the first team, like Ralston, while signing other young, cheap development players like Perez, then maybe the idea is to spend money on 'surer' things in key positions and less Johnny Hayes/Hendry type signings. You could argue Edouard and Ntcham were seen similarly.
    If this is all we are going to spend in January, or possibly 2019 in total, then it would seem to be a huge gamble.
    I assume, should a first-team right-back com in that Lustig will be moving on?
     
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    They bought him for 6, don’t want to sell but the player wants game time which he isn’t getting this season.
     
  16. Jeremie Frimpong

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    Aye, hopefully that is the case, mate.
     
  17. DJ CJ

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    Can’t say I’m overly excited about paying £6m for the second choice right back from a currently mid table serie a team.
     
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    Exactly what I think, would expect to get something a bit more high profile for 6m. Though I’ll admit I’ve never seen him play.
     
  19. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    You should expect nothing for 6 million these days, it buys you run of the mill pish in England and unfortunately for us the knock on effect is that skews the entire market. Whether an English team fancy him or not, which I have no doubts whatsoever at least a few will given he’s got caps for Belgium.
     
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    Atalanta are a good team, theyd probably beat Celtic tbh. Serie A has rocketed in quality recently.

    I don’t remember ever having seen Castagne play but he’s exactly the sort of player we should be looking at.