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The Costly Refereeing Decisions Thread

I know there's a couple of other refereeing threads on the go just now but I thought it would be interesting if we could have a thread where all the IMPORTANT refereeing decisions that have gone against Celtic this season could be catalogued.

Perhaps by doing this we will get a better picture of just how hard done by we have been by referees this season.

If you can remember an important decision that went against us this season ie. goal disallowed, penalty not given, player sent off/not sent off unjustifiably etc etc then post it up and remind us of it.

PS. It would be really helpful if you could post some footage of the incident you are talking about or at the very least post a link to an article that talks about the incident.

I'll get the ball rolling with Craig Thomson's inept performance at Ibrox earlier in the season. Shocking stuff and the refusal to give us at least 1 more penalty in this match cost us points in the end.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSq2rsmBTSI&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]

 

I can't find any footage of Fortune's disallowed goal(if you can then post it up) but here is another key decision that went against us and ultimately cost us points.

Celtic Striker Marc-Antoine Fortune Angered By Disallowed Goal - Goal.com

 

Another penalty we should have had in the dying minutes against Dundee Utd earlier in the season. The match ended 1-1. More points lost through refereeing incompetence.

Celtic 1 - 1 Dundee Utd

Celtic and 10-man Dundee United played out a thrilling draw in the Scottish Premier League. David Goodwillie upset the hosts in the sixth minute with a fine close-range strike past Artur Boruc high into the back of the net.
A Scott McDonald header levelled the scores 11 minutes later after Danny Fox flighted in a searching free-kick.
United's Scott Robertson was sent off late in the match for a careless challenge on Georgios Samaras.
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Dundee United defender Andy Webster recovered from a groin problem to leave the visitors unchanged.
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With barely six minutes played, Goodwillie opened the scoring from six yards out, firing high into the back of the net past Boruc from a Morgaro Gomis pass to give United an early lead.
Celtic's first major threat arrived from a corner 10 minutes later, but Shaun Maloney blasted the final ball wildly over the bar.
The scores were levelled in the 17th minute when Fox whipped in a disputed free-kick from wide on the right and McDonald was allowed to stoop low and head home unchallenged from four yards out.
Scott Brown's claims for a penalty shortly after the half-hour were waved away by referee Steve Conroy as United weathered a wave of Celtic pressure.
United's Prince Buaben broke free in the middle of the pitch and slotted a neat pass to Danny Cadamarteri out on the right, but the former Huddersfield man blasted his shot straight into the hands of Boruc.
Moments later, Maloney sprinted down the left wing and crossed in for McDonald to strike from 10 yards out, but the Australian's shot was deflected over the United bar for a corner.
Celtic lived dangerously as the break approached with a goalmouth scramble that ended when Boruc parried the ball clear, then Maloney sent a 45th-minute free kick wide of United keeper Nicky Weaver's right-hand post.
Goodwillie looked dangerous after the restart when he lined up a shot inside the Celtic penalty area, but Fox cleared the danger.
Danny Swanson got on the end of a United counter-attack in the 53rd minute and shaved Boruc's left-hand post with a powerful strike from 16 yards.
Substitute Samaras had the ball in the back of the net with a close-range header in the 59th minute, but was ruled offside, much to the dismay of the home support.
Moments later, McGinn crashed a shot across the face of the United goal as Celtic piled on the pressure.
A Fox free-kick from the edge of the United box warmed the hands of Weaver before the visitors mounted a counter-attack that snuffed out in the final third.
Cadamarteri could have put United ahead with eight minutes left to play, but Fox threw himself in front of the Englishman's shot and Celtic breathed easy.
Robertson was dismissed in the dying minutes of the match for a careless challenge on Samaras on the edge of the United penalty area.
Maloney stepped up to take the resulting free-kick and curved in a powerful strike which was deflected wide for a goal-kick.
A double penalty claim by Celtic was waved away in injury time when Gary Kenneth and Darren Dods both appeared to handle the ball in quick succession.
A late Cadamarteri shot failed to trouble Boruc as the sides had to make do with a share of the points.

 

Samaras had a good goal disallowed for offside in the game too.

 

Kyle Lafferty's hideous tackle on Andreas Hinkel. Even Super Sally admitted he was lucky to stay on the park. He should have been sent off. This would have meant Celtic playing against 10 men for 2/3 of the match. Our chances of winning that match would have been greatly increased if the referee hadn't bottled out of sending Lafferty off.

'Daft' Kyle Lafferty was lucky not to be sent off in Old Firm clash, admits Ally McCoist

Jan 7 2010 Gary Ralston
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ALLY McCOIST has branded sinning striker Kyle Lafferty more daft than dangerous.
The Rangers assistant boss admits the Northern Ireland star was fortunate not to see red against Celtic for a horror lunge at Andreas Hinkel.
But he has defended Lafferty while confessing the former Burnley frontman is shaping up for arguably the most crucial 12 months of his career.
McCoist said: "Kyle was lucky to stay on the park. I was 15 yards or so behind Tony Mowbray but saw his reaction to the tackle on Hinkel and knew it was bad.
"I didn't know how bad it was until later when I saw a re-run and I thought Kyle was extremely, extremely lucky to stay on the park.
"However, it was daft more than malicious. He has his dafter moments and that was one of them.
"Has criticism of him been over the top? Well, it's part of Old Firm life and whether or not I think it is justified is irrelevant. Kyle will handle the criticism fine."
Lafferty, 22, has struggled to convince fans he is worth the £3.5million Rangers shelled out to land him from the then Championship outfit 18 months ago.
Before the Hinkel challenge he had previously made biggest headlines for feigning a head-* from Aberdeen full-back Charlie Mulgrew although he did open the scoring at Tannadice as Rangers finally swept to the title last season.
McCoist said: "We must shoulder a lot of the responsibility for Kyle's form.
We played him in three positions on Sunday and that's not fair on him although it was taken out of our hands by Nacho Novo's injury.
"He's a centre-forward but we haven't given him the chance to play through the middle and that's not 100 per cent fair on him.
"He's still young and it's all a learning experience.
"His biggest challenge is to make himself a regular in our team and score goals. I wouldn't bet against him doing it.
"For sure 2010 is a big year for Kyle. He's unlucky Kenny Miller and Kris Boyd have been firing on all cylinders.
"However, if I was Kyle I'd be thinking this was a very important year on my calendar."

 

And of course who could forget this dirty cheating *.........

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVFVNfjZa10[/YOUTUBE]

I know this wasn't in the SPL but still it was a pathetic decision by the referee all the same. Celtic were already 2-0 down in the tie but this decision put it completely out of our reach.

 

That first video absolutely boils my blood.

* right we've got every right to be questioning the refs and linesmen's before this game on Sunday. If we win, it could very well be the crumbling of the huns.

 

16 January 2010 - Celtic v Falkirk 3 major decisions go against Celtic

1. Hand ball by Falkirk defender - no penalty
2. Fortune pulled down in box - no penalty
3. Arthur handles ball 17 yards from goal 1 yard inside his box and a free kick is given to Falkirk 20 yards from goal. This could have given Falkirk the winning goal

Referee - Alan Muir

Mail on Sunday - 'Falkirk manager Eddie May said: "Overall, I thought it was a fair result. But I think they should have had a penalty."

Daily Mail - 'Alan Muir denied the Parkhead club a late penalty claim - when Brian McLean tangled with Fortune - in the 1-1 draw with Falkirk on Saturday. Hinkel was also unhappy about Celtic keeper Artur Boruc being penalised for apparently stepping out of his area late on. "It's not really my thing to say something about referees but, once again, we had some very strange decisions," said Hinkel. Not even just the penalty - look at the situation when Artur had a free-kick given against him.

TWO points dropped. Opposing manager admits Celtic should have had penalty.

 

Also not in one of our games but that goal disallowed for Motherwell against The Scum.Totally incompetent lines man! Gained them 1point

 

The OP pretty much sums it all up.

 

When you watch that video of the refereeing decisions in the last game at Ibrox it's actually pretty difficult to argue that Celtic have no grounds to make a statement about the standard of refereeing before we have to go back there again.

It's not as though what happened that day was an isolated incident. I'm sure we all remember this..........

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-5E7yFuzy4[/YOUTUBE]

No doubt the linesman didn't have a good view of it

 

Certain decisions have went against us in both games against them, but there's also the fact that the 3-3 game against Falkirk,4-4 against Aberdeen,losing 2 goals against Dun Utd in the last 6 mins,losing another against Hibs in the last minute .1-1 against them and countless other games where we made plenty of chances and never took them,add a fckn excuse for a defence.That's the real reason we're in the position we now find ourselves,we can't even throw a run together and can't keep blaming everybody else for this,some but not all.The real reason we're in * street is a board who sat back and done fck all when rangers where on their fckn knee's.

 

No doubting that.

But dose that mean we should have to put up with the shear number of pts that officials have cost us this season?

 

whats the point?

no matter what we say or do! no * will do anything about it and instead they all will deem us as petty,and childish over this.

and besides it wouldnt surprise me now refs might make more decisions for them to help and screwe us. remember when dallas got struck with a coin? he gave a ludicrus penalty to the huns. just * like that.

 

anyone got the highlights to the of game at parkhead? Where McRaper shoved mcdonald from behind and laugherty's foul on hinkel?

 

The huns have had the rub of green this season no question but I think some of us are going overboard somewhat on this.

Remember the 2007/2008 season, a * of alot of things went our way towards the end of that and at the beginning of the next one we are behind this time mainly because the team just hasn't been good enough.

 

i am not going to say we are paranoid for one reason because i think every celtic fan in this world knows its true.
if you look at an artical in the english guardian i think there is a topic in which an english journolist had heard of this so called "paranoia" and decided to take a keen interest in how things went this season and about one month ago published an artical saying exactly what was on this, decisions for unkown reasons going against celtic, incompitance in refs and came up with the conclusion that not everything was quite right.
if someone in the english press with no care for Celtic or Rangers can see this why can the SFA not?
why is it everytime a bad decision happens a former ref comes out to say he was right?

i am not saying this team or manager are world beaters far from it there is a long way to go, all i am saying is. you stay in a job due to results and if you lose your job due to incompancy from someone else then there is something wrong there.

 

There is not a fan of any club I know (apart from huns mind you as I don't really know any) that does not claim the same against their team to an extent, it is the nature of being a football fan imo. There have been some bad decisions against us this season but we get plenty of decisions for us but dont dwell on them.

The seasons we are winning the league we don't have the big long threads like this about refs, it may be cathartic but its not particularly constructive. We should be focusing on other areas like what is wrong with the team, how well the manager is doing his job, are the board backing him adequately and so on.

Anyway I hope we f*ck the huns tomorow with a last minute dodgy penalty we are due!

 

The Referees have been cheating celtic for years the sfa is orange! everyone knows that even rangers fans will tell you thatm they get away with murder
FINALLY CELTIC HAVE COME OUT AND SAID SOMETHING THANK *!!!
ITS ABOUT TIME THEY SHUD HAVE COMPLAINED BEFORE.. JORGE CADETE TOM BOYD AGREE TO LOL THE REFS R ALL FOR RANGERS I DONT CARE WOT ANY1 SAYS I DONT MIND SOMEONE MAKIN A MISTAKE BUT WHEY THEY R SO BLATANT ITS UNREAL ANY1 WHO THINKS THE REFS ARNT BIASED TOWARDS RANGERS NEED TO HAVE A LOOK AT THEMSELVES! THE MOST BLATANT PENALTY DECISION NOT GIVEN I HAVE EVER SEEN WAS WHEN NEIL LENNON GOT BROT DOWN IN THE BOX AT IBROX BY STEVIE SMITH! UNBELEVABLE!

 

get over it use are going way over board !