This 'Always cheated, never defeated' nonsense.

I apologise to you Sean for being out of hand. It's only meant to be a friendly debate. But, I just strongly believe that if Celtic play well = we win. If we play bad = we win/ but can sometimes lose.

 

EH!!?? How can you possibly come to that conclusion when we spent most of the game with 10 then 9 men? before cha got wrongly sent off we were staring to take the upper hand, rangers looked like they had run out of their early steam; the sending off changed all that yet they still couldn't score for 50 odd minutes against 10 and 9 men.

If we could score 2 goals with 9 men I'm sure as * we would have done with 11 men; Cha's sending off robbed us of that chance

 

100% right.

 

Neil Lennon and supporters on here have been angry with officials, even when we've won matches. It's more obvious when we lose because we're trying to pinpoint reasons for our defeat. Yes, if we steam-roll a team, the cheating referee might not be able to * us over.

We shouldn't have to walk over every team, every team has to grind out matches and one reason the huns have been able to do that over the years and we haven't has been down to officials.

I don't care if we shout louder about it when we lose and might sound to some people, like sore losers. Winning softens the blow usually, people concentrate on the positives after a victory.

* the SFA, they are rotten.

 

I don't think I complained once about refs when we went 15 points behind earlier in the season, we just weren't playing well. But when the chips are down it always involves some dodgy refereeing decisions, always.

Also, the day McDonald lied to Lenny we actually won that game, so if it was just sour grapes we would never have made a complaint after that match.

 

These cheating refs must be doing a * job if they allowed us to overturn our 15 point deficit and take an 8 point lead without the administration deduction.

 

Just because you use words like "rambling" and "ranting" and type in all caps TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE WERE MENTAL!!!!!!! Doesn't make it so. People are suspicious of the SFA for good reason and if you don't understand that then the least you can do is provide some answers as to why the SFA aren't/haven't been biased without seeking to make Celtic fans who DO provide evidence to back their argument look like deranged, paranoid lunatics. The Hun media do enough of that already.

Judging by your reaction in this thread the Huns plan with this propaganda slogan is working nicely, they have Tims making other Tims out to be mad. Divide and conquer has never been more obvious. You my friend have fallen for it.

 

I think we have to move away from our performance, put that to one side, people are saying stuff like "We would have lost anyway" I completely disagree, nobody knows what would have happen if we had 11 men on the pitch, we could have won for all people know but that's not the point, we were very much in the game until Mr Murray made more 'honest mistakes'.

Cha's sending off was a disgrace, absolutely disgrace, no way was that a red card, not in my eyes, it looked like Mulgrew was getting across anyway, for such an occasion the ref HAD to use common sense and realise that and give a Yellow card and a warning, that would have been enough but no Mr Murray wanted to be the centre of attention, stupid horrible *, hope he * razor blades for a week.

It's all very easy for the rest of the footballing world to accuse us of being paranoid and * like that, there's too many incidents, I would love to go on Sky Sports News and sit down with that Georgie Thompson (well I would prefer is she would sit on my face if I'm being honest :icon_mrgreen and tell her and the rest of the world just why we hate the SFA and give her a list of examples where we feel like justice hasn't been done and to explain that no we're not stupid and no we're not making excuses, we are simply wanting a FAIR football match in which 'honest mistakes' don't always go against Celtic.

* the SFA.

 

I was about to start typing my opinion expressing my belief that we are paranoid (not without reason) and then you went and brought Georgie Thompson into it. And I can't disagree with a man citing Georgie.

Well played sir, well played indeed.

 

* you're right, I should have known it was a hun plot to make us fight amongst ourselves. They really are ever a bright bunch aren't they...? And so the conspiracy deepens...!

 

Cheated or not cheated, loss draw or a win, we embarresed them at their own ground by scoring twice in 3 mins. Thats a win for me even if we got 0 points because we are the champions allready.

 

When we are playing poorly the refs are at there worst, they smell blood and sh*t on us at every opportunity they get. It has been like that as long as i have been watching Celtic, however we only had ourselves to blame at the weekend we approached the game all wrong, we looked timid and fragile. It was there day on Sunday, but we have another opportunity to really stick it to them in the final game at Parkhead. We have a young, Talented team, with only a few pieces of jigsaw missing to being a very good team. We also have potential Champions league football next season to look forward too. What the * have Rangers fans got? maybe beating us in a game that means Fu*k all next season.

 

For me the complaints about Sunday are not about anything other then what has been going on for decades. If disgraceful ref performances like Sundays was a once in a while thing then fair enough days like that can happen. But facts are we have been taking it from the refs against the "establishments" team for a long long time.

I will be the first to point fingers at ourselves if it is right. In the early part of the season when we struggled the complaints were about the team and some lineups and choices made by Lennon although I also accepted that we were getting hit by a dreadful run of injuries. In otherwords we struggled because of a combination of poor performance and injuries.

On Sunday we were dreadful in the opening 15 minutes and deserved to be 1-0 down and I have consistently said that. However after that initial period we seemed to waken up and both Stokes and Samaras forced excellent saves from McGregor and we were working our way back into the game. That all changed again with the joke of a red card on Cha. But even after that we defended ok with the 10 men and were denied a clear pk at 1-0 when Whittaker hauled Rogne down in the box. That is some huge game changing decisions all against us.
The Wanyama red card for me was not a red card but I understand in the modern game many refs even good ones would have given it although not all. Then we have McElbows getting Brown in the back of the head. Another one that in the modern game is usually a red but not this time. Then to ice the cake when we make it 3-2 there was still 90 seconds left yet the ref lets the huns take all day to restart the game and then still blows when the clock hits 4 minutes on injury time.

 

Ok, failed attempts at ridicule really are your first (and last by the looks of it) port of call in a debate aren't they? Well done, really shot me down there.