A wee thread to get to the bones of this madness. Let's talk...also that's the doc and og on anaw noo...:smiley-laughing002:
Ronnie has done as well as he could, fairly, have been expected to do. Which is really well, when you consider where he came from and what he was thrust, head first, into in his first season in the job.
Some of the * folk have been saying on here has to just be the result of misdirected angst or frustration, which is fine but some folk are taking it all a bit too...mad. I dunno how else to put it.
Ronnie has given no one any reason whatsoever since he's been here to justify the kind of panic and * that's been on here the last few days. Not when you consider the context of what he's failed at and achieved so far. Some people are missing that out completely and it's totally unfair.
Celtic, the players and the management team, after their first season and a bit together have some * to sort out, absolutely, but all of them still deserve our full support, imo. :celt_2:
Try to stay positive troops! :shamrock::50:
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At least we aren't another "big" club"... Long deid and playing in the championship under a deid name.... Hey we're still playing games in Europe, own our stadium outright, above water financially, have young and promising players... Its not all bad :celt_2:
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Hope this gets locked up. Stupid options, we're in neither column. Definitely not a positive thread.
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Doesnt matter if we're brilliant...mediocre......or absolute dung......the team will have my full support, always have.
Well, with the exceptions of Square Heid Cascarino and Chin Chinnery Mowbray. -
og1 will be along to call you a * soon.
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Think we have took a step back about 5 year the footballs garbage the formation is horrific and the managers no were near good enough to manage us, teams far to 1 dimensional everybody knows whos starting before kick off, all side to side stuff with 1 striker dropping, its going to take a horrible huns team to beat us in 1 of the cups or a aberdeen title win to open peoples eyes am far from impressed! We have got worse thsn last year.
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Stupid poll. No middle ground. Why did players are unfit needed to be added to option 2?
A stupid and meaningless poll.
I might well start a poll with options
a Are you happy to back Ronnnie and be out of the CL and trailing in the league
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Avoided the forum last few days cause of all the * threads you see after a couple of defeats. Once again we we're put in our place (Europa league) before the season started, and we have had another slow start in the league. This is precisely where we found ourselves last year, and the end of the season youdve thought we were shoe ins for CL final the positivity on here. It's far too fickle.
I have zero expectations for this Europa campaign (as the group is a very tough one) just as last year. The fact is, I don't see what more Ronny can do with the resources given to him, and there's not really an abundance of managers within our grasp who we could a point that would guarantee us more success. The league is a must, any run/win in Europe is a bonus, nothing's changed. -
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The manager AND the players could at least perform better than their counterparts on a much smaller budget like Aberdeen and Malmö.
We can forgive a slip up against Malmö and even against Aberdeen, but we must win the league. That is the only thing that matters right now and as things stand now, that is not a given. -
Sack them aw.
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Our squad isn't the strongest at the moment but I believe we have a lot of young talent. I just think we need perhaps one or two more experienced heads in with them. In saying that Brown and Johanson should be two of the main ones providing that and they've been gash since the start of the season.
Looking forward to Armstrong's development as I think he is a very good player already and can only get better. Griffiths has come on leaps and bounds, as has Bitton. I also think we might see the James Forrest that we were promised three seasons ago emerge as Ronny seems to have managed his injuries well and has him playing with confidence again. Hopefully Jozo will be a great buy as well.
Europe is a sickener, but it happened to Lennon as well, and Lennon had better, more mature, players at his disposal imo. We are constantly trying to gel new squads and it takes the one that has settled to make the push in Europe. -
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I suppose it does depend on how you word things...
It's one of my first polls incidentally, it tells you to keep it short and simple so I did.
In terms of having a middle ground option, I've not noticed much middle ground here the last few days. Plus ultimately, with or without (depending on your view) context taken into account, those two options include the most likely / popular opinions on both sides. -
If you do what you've always done you'll get what you've always got. In the case of Ronnys' Celtic, that means we'll get away with it, or we'll get humped.
In domestic games we mainly get away with it. In Europe we mainly get humped. If Ronny stays we're going to need a lot of good fortune. I would suggest we replace JC with a black cat and replace JK with a rabbits foot.
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Nobody else think Ronnie has actually done better with an overall weaker squad (especially when he first came in), less money, less domestic competition (which is actually not a good thing despite the appearance that it should be easier, over time we've got naturally less sharp, on edge etc without a direct rival), harder qualification for Euro comps, etc. than some recent previous managers who had it made by comparison?
Context, it's a useful way of framing a thought or opinion.
I'd love Ronnie to be a bit more flexible with things like formation (changing the shape doesn't mean changing the style of football you want to play necessarily) or use his subs better/more tactically. To be fair Qarabag away showed he learned the lesson of not just going gung-ho, * for leather all the time
Nobody is perfect, he was thrown, literally into the deep end and he's coped admirably imo. He will understand what the problems are and I'm confident he and JC, etc. can sort it out.
Like others have said, the potential in our team is amazing, we just need to get them all gelled and clicking as a unit and we should be sorted and able to beat a team like Ajax with less fuss. :50:
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Couldn't have said it better. :shamrock::50:
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