The Ronny Deila Thread

No huns has made it more difficult to win the league.

I've heard it all now.

 

You think it's harder to win the league just now than it was in the 90's?

 

Sean, you know what I meant there, surely.

 

No they definitely would stroll it but I wasnt thinking that back then, exciting to watch as we were we still finished runners up to the huns. Anyway the point about harking back was simply to show that there had been mega * times that some of us had witnessed & might show why there's a disparity in patience between some guys. Its not Ronnys fault he doesnt have the huns to contend with btw. I see something in him & im willing, for now to show more patience with him.

 

No, what I'm saying is, not having any real competition at all is not good for the top team in any sport, eventually standards will drop, sooner or later. Our main rival has been away now since 2012, it makes sense that our edge has gone a bit. That's not the only reason of course but it's not something to dismiss.

 

This is worstest team I've ever seen.

 

I was very young back then, didn't fully comprehend that Celtic were a club that's supposed to win things. I definitely would * hate to go back to that. Just pointing out that there was some quality that we lack dreadfully just now, even back then.

I'm not blaming Ronny for that, I just don't think he's using the fact there's little challenge to the fullest effect. I want the Champions League. That's how we grow as a club.

 

Aye we should have go rid after the EL campaign, now we have made our rod for our own backs as why would we sack a manager who may yet deliver a treble.

 

I don't fully buy that argument, we got into the Last 16 because we could afford to take our eye off the ball and still win the league while fully concentrating our efforts on Europe.

It's the lack of Champions League football in the last two seasons that's seen us deteriote IMO, not anything to do with Oldco not existing anymore.

We should be angling to be in the same sort of position that Lyon were in the early 2000's, unfortunatey that opportunity has now been squandered.

 

I read something a while back from an ex colleague of Ronnys,dont remember his name,cut a long story short,he was saying he didn't recognise the way we played as a Ronny type team and he was surprised at what he saw.When Ronny came to the club he promised high intensity attacking football,whats changed?All his earlier interviews were on about fitness level and all that,personally I don't see any great difference in our fitness levels compared to our past management regimes.Is Ronny the problem or are the players just not listening to him?Sure their has been brief spells in games where the players play the high intensity attacking football and it is a joy to watch the whole 5mins of it lol.Anyway had a few bevvys today and have forgotten what my point was ha ha.* it sack the board

 

Considering our current form if Ronny wins the treble he should get another season because that would be quite a feat. Our form will get better though, we've got the best team in the SPL and it will show soon enough.

We could do with some competition though. I reckon if there was a serious challenge to the league our recent performances would've seen a bit more hunger.

The big worry is if a team doesn't come up to meet our challenge we might end up doing down to meet everyone else's. We definitely need CL football if only to attract some quality players.

 

That last Last 16 appearance was literally just after They went down thoug, in other words the players we had and the place we were in were the same as when They were in the Prem. Now that some time has elapsed (and after selling the best of that last 16 team) we're seeing the effect of having no competition domestically whatsoever. It's not a good thing.

 

Like I said, I think that's because we aren't playing at a higher level. We managed to attract players like Van Dijk after they were gone because we made a reputation for ourselves in Europe. We wouldn't be able to attract someone like that just now due to poor showings in Europe.

We need to be known as a Champions League team, with the prestige and money that brings. Not thought of as just a club that's playing in a backwater league.

 

I couldn't agree more with you. Van Dijk wasn't exactly famous before signing for us though. Hopefully Jozo can turn out to be as good as Virgil.

One of the main reasons players sign for any club is to play in big, competative games. Having the Them back up will give us that selling point back and ultimately improve our form domestically and in Europe.

 

Van Dijk was in the Eredivisir team of the year and was being looked at by Ajax at the time I believe. That'd be beyond us now.

 

Possibly, we can't say one way or the other though. We're still a good club for young, ambitious, quality players to come to.

Obviously being in the CL is crucial in that regard, attracting players, etc. I just hope Ronnie can get his team built in time for next season. One of the main reasons he was brought in was bringing the best of the youth through. We've got Tierney, which is great, but I really want to see more of the likes of Nesbitt and Miller, who, I think, are just as good. And because they are our youth products they will always give more for the shirt.
I can't say for definate cus I don't know all the facts but I think Nesbitt is ready for the top team.

Ronnie seems to have his set way of doing certain things, like formation but he really needs to be more flexible.
I also get the feeling that he, maybe, relies on stats a bit too much. Let's say GMS runs about the most in training but doesn't perform in games. In that case it shouldn't matter what he does in training. I don't know if that's the case but I've got the feeling it might be. Stats are a crucial tool in modern football but they have to be used in conjunction with a managers common sense and knowledge of his players.
Ronnie is clearly still a work in progress which is partly why I'm still behind him, but my faith in him is slipping. If we don't kick on from now, being a new year and all that, then somethings not right but I'm still hopefull he can turn it round.

 

People forget this team was performing in the second half of last season and the early parts of this however this has been hampered by our central defence changing and there being injuries to key players including our main front man and our captain. I honestly don't blame Deila for a loss in confidence of the team. Players like Gordon and Johansen don't become bad overnight it's clearly a confidence issue.

 

One of the big problems for me is Ronny doesn't realise we don't have a central defence pairing of the quality of Denayer and Van Dijk anymore. They were superb on the ball, they could afford to play like midfielders because the two were very quick.

Boyata and Simunovic not so much, he hasn't altered it to play to their strengths though. It's no coincednce that yeaterday was the first time in a long time that we never looked very susceptible to a counter attack - we had Ambrose's pace at the back.

 

It's one of the many things Ronny doesn't seem to get though, and ultimately that's why he needs to go. We can't spend 2-3 years developing Ronny Deila.

 

I really don't understand why we need to forgive all Deila flaws because he had some players injured or sold. Every single manager in the world has those issues. Hearts had two first team players out against us. This is why teams have managers, to cope with crises and find a solution when things go square. If not we could just let the 11 lads in the pitch to play for fun.