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The Ronny Deila Thread

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by Glasgow_Bhoy88, Jun 6, 2014.

Discuss The Ronny Deila Thread in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Kazaginac

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    Pa nije ti Celtic Dinamo staari :50:

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    Have we really rejected Malky Mackay and appointed this annonimus * instead? :56::56::56:
     
  2. Leone Naka Fan

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    Cry. Because if the board are indeed engaged in criminal activity, then the club is in for a nasty ride.

    @Devlin's long post- well * said. I won't back any manager over such stupid tactical decisions. as it stands, Neil Lennon seems a tactical genius when compared to RD.

    Kazaginac- just because the UK is governed better doesn't mean there isn't corruption and financial crime in a few of the clubs. Celtic's board that was in the 90-s was doing some very nasty things. Where's the guarantee that Lawwell isn't sucking money out of the club?
     
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  3. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    IF you seriously believe this :smiley-laughing002: (and who am I to say your nuts :50:) then the following links will help

    http://www.fca.org.uk/about/what/protecting/financial-crime

    http://www.fca.org.uk/site-info/contact/whistleblowing
     
  4. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    Imagine rejecting the man who was sacked by Cardiff and instead appointing a league winner.

    Joke.
     
  5. Soul Rebel

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    What else can he do unless he's allowed to invest in the squad? Stokes is just * full stop as a striker whether he's on his own or with someone.

    Players should be able to adapt to different styles of football ffs, they are professionals who are paid extremely well to play football. Its not like asking a guy in the IT department to work in the electrical engineering department.
     
  6. Dáibhí

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    I think one of the primary concerns that Deila had was fitness levels being low.

    He historically plays a fast paced, aggressive pressing system, so players will have to be able to run all day.
     
  7. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    Which is why players like Stokes, Commons and Mulgrew should be punted.
     
  8. Liam Scales

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    It's not rocket science, players play better in positions more suited to them, Stokes is a player who plays much better with a striking partner. Griffiths a player who plays much better up front rather on the wing.

    We have players in midfield that play much better in a 3 man midfield.

    Matthews is better as a right back than a left back.

    It's really, really simple.

    Players should be able to adapt, aye, sure. Messi might have the pace to make a good centre back but the point is why the * would you want to do that when they are much better in their proper positions?
     
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    A complete clear out is needed.
     
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    How is Stokes playing a lone striker role or Griffiths being tried out wide the same as Messi playing centre back? :56: And you're talking to me about rocket science.
     
  11. Liam Scales

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    The point being players should be able to adapt, yes?

    My point is players play to their best when they are in their best positions. Positions they are used to. By all means, experiment against Partick Thistle at home or something like that but not in our most important games of the season.

    Do you think the players he had available to him are capable of playing better than they did last night? Do you think the managers tactics have no bearing on what happens on the pitch as the players, highly paid as they are, should be able to play anywhere anyway as they should be able to adapt?

    Or do you reckon you put out a team in a formation and in positions that suits their strengths?
     
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    The players can play where Deila is asking them to, just think they are throwing their toys out their pram because they don't want to, as evidenced by Griffiths little remark before the Reykjavic game.

    Of course the managers tactics have a bearing on the game but the players could have and should have played better, they look like they don't give a * and they cant be arsed, not that they are struggling in a slightly different position or role. Players should be able to adapt to different roles and positions if they are reasonably slight differences, I'm not saying stick Fraser up front and Griffiths in goal. A striker should be able to control a ball, he should be able to pass, he should be able to shoot and for someone like Griffiths who has a little bit of pace he should be able to at least be semi competent out wide and do a job there against teams like Legia.
     
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    A lot of "shoulds" there. The fact is, we don't know. Well, we know for a fact Stokesy isn't a lone striker, we also know for a fact Griffiths is better up front than on the wing, yes?

    You don't experiment in these types of games, you play to your players strengths.

    His tactics were baffling, I'm surprised anycunt is trying to stick up for them.

    What did you think of the decision to play Berget?
     
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    We have been crying out for a lone striker since Hooper left, and we still haven't adequately replaced him.
     
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    Playing a lone striker isn't just about these abilities you listed. Some players would feel isolated. Not trying at all or sabotaging the manager is an entirely different problem.

    murphy88, Hooper wasn't a lone striker. He was partnered with none other than Stokes. And that partnership worked. Now, Deila is the one that wants to do stupid things and play Stokes alone up top.
     
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    Everything Devlin says is true, we are out because the new manager * up.

    He played a formation and tactics that left us wide open at the back and disjointed up front. He severely weakened the team.
     
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    Thats my post before the first leg...

    http://www.talkceltic.net/forum/showpost.php?p=4158258&postcount=491

    Other people said the same, people knew what out best team and style of play was and didnt like him implementing his own style too soon knowing we never had the players to play it. But he went ahead regardless and the teams struggled.
     
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    Aye, basically I reckon before you go ahead and implement any sort of drastic changes you need to be sure you have the players who can play in that formation.

    It's not a problem that's soley down to us, look at Barcelona last year, some of the greatest players in the world looked lost when Tata made wholesale changes to the playing style.
     
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    Gary Hooper was able to adapt to play the lone striking role. He played a lot on his own up top when Stokes was injured. He struggled to begin with, but quickly altered his game, something which Stokes is unable to do in my opinion.
     
  20. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    Simple really play to your teams strengths and the style you want can come later with coaching/additions to the team.