The Ronny Deila Thread

The thing is, if you look at Deila's history as a manager he's not done well when he's had to shoe-horn players into his way of playing. His first few years at Strømsgodset weren't great, but he turned it around when he shaped the side into what he was looking for.

It's obvious that there's a lot of players that he doesn't rate in our current first team, and he's also commented on a lack of fitness.

We're going to have to persevere with the guy and give him time to get it right. If the board aren't prepared to do that then why bother bringing him in in the first place? It's no secret how he plays and the way he coaches.

If they simply wanted someone to continue on where Lennon left off then I'm sure Owen Coyle could have done just that.

 

I agree a few of his decisions over the 2 legs were baffling, but I genuinely don't think it would have mattered how we set up, or who played where. For me, the current team just simply aren't good enough. Had we set up differently, we might not have been embarrassed as much as we were, but ultimately, I think we would have been eliminated. The hammering we took might make the board realise we need fresh faces, and that would be a good thing. Sadly, I don't think the suits will take much notice, as long as the balance sheet makes for good reading, forget about the fans, and what they are paying to watch.

 

This is one opinion I don't quite get.

Surely if we play badly, lose in Europe and no one comes to watch us the balance sheet won't make for good reading?

Each of those guys on our current board are not * idiots. They have solid business backgrounds and know what it takes to make money.

This idea that the board are refusing to spend and are somehow glad that we're doing badly is simply ridiculous. If they are all in it for the money then they wouldn't want that, would they?

 

In my country, pocket-lining is common, on the expense of the citizens, or sports club fans. Often the profit from some activity, be it tax collection, the playing of football matches or something else, is misappropriated and siphoned away in illegal ways, for the profit of certain individuals. I believe criminal activity of similar fashion may be going on at the club. Serious accusation, but I know how it works, and so I deem it plausible. Police investigation of CFC would be a good thing.

 

I'm not saying they are happy with us performing badly, I haven't once said that. However, by not investing sufficiently, and replacing the players we have lost with adequate replacements, we have blundered. We were fortunate last season to draw the weakest team we could in the play-off round, but all that done was paper over the cracks, and hide the fact we need fresh faces. This team aren't good enough, simple!

I have also never criticised the board's business credentials. However, there has to be a balance between the finances, and what the fans are paying to watch on the park. That, right now, doesn't seem to be the case. A good business brain, doesn't equate to a good footballing brain, and in this line of work, you need both. They couldn't give two hoots about the fans, we are just seen as customers in my opinion.

 

Agree with this.

Think it will be a long 2-3 years but it'll be worth it in the long run imo.

 

That just says to me he's a manager who can't adapt.

 

He hasn't even really got any wingers, the captain is injured and a lot of the players aren't good enough. I really don't know why some people want him gone already.

 

There is no way Ronny will get 2-3 years if things continue in the same manner.

I like Ronny and comes across very well but I have to admit I think we might be looking for a new manager sooner rather than later.

 

It must have been equally frustrating for him last night watching legia's frontline/wingers considering he's been publicly crying out for exactly what they brought to the table over 2 legs..

 

Happy Clapper CSC. Just noticed.

 

Possibly.

But neither can Pep Guardiola.

I'd rather we have a manager who has a definite way of playing, and knows exactly the kind of players he wants than a jack of all trades if I'm honest.

 

To be fair a healthy young man * about 20 - 30 mph if i remember right from PSE

 

He truly can't, and thus he failed to win the CL with Bayern. He's stubbornly all about his tiki-taka crap just like RD is all about his superoffensive formation with a back line that stands as the center of the pitch, FB-s faking as strikers... I prefer adaptable managers who have different tactics for different times.

 

Well, if he failed to win the Champions League with Bayern he's obviously a failure.

Is he still with them? Surprised they haven't got shot of him in favour of an adaptable manager like Harry Redknapp.

 

Or we've got a team full of * who are missing their best pal.

 

Pep has the world’s best players at his disposal and even he can’t afford to put his philosophy aside at times when he is facing a team who is clearly suite to playing against that style – something he absolutely did against Real Madrid last season, which is the reason they took a tanking. Imagine Deila actually got into the Champions League and tried that formation last night against Real Madrid? It would be a record tanking, without doubt.

We need a manager who can adapt to the players that he has available to them, not a manager who shoehorns his philosophy whether it will work or not. A manager who can read the way the game is going, if we are being overrun in midfield I would expect that quickly rectified, not persevered with because that is his ‘philosophy’ – going into the game last night with still only two men in the centre of the park was almost unforgivable for me, never mind playing Johansen on the wing instead of in the middle.

All managers have their own style, however a good manager adapts to what he has infront of him, he hasn’t had a chance to get his own personnel in yet so he adapts to what he has. Especially in these games, he adapts to suit what is best for the game ahead of him. These were the most important games of our season and we failed utterly miserably.

He could have got them out of the way and implemented his philosophy, with more of his own players in the SPFL where we have a lot of breathing space. That is what a clever manager would have done.

What a clever manager wouldn’t have done was play a right back at left back when we had a left back on the bench, he wouldn’t have thrown in a player that hadn’t even been in the country 24 hours who hasn’t played more than two games in almost a 8 months, he wouldn’t have played a striker on the wing, he wouldn’t have played a midfielder as a lone striker for half a game, he wouldn’t have played the best central midfielder available to us on the wing and he wouldn’t have went suicidality attacking when down to 10 men.

They are all baffling decisions, they are all decisions that cost us heavily in these two legs.

He may have a philosophy on football, he may be a success but his first hurdle was an absolute failure and failure isn’t good enough at Celtic.

Ronny will learn that soon enough. Saying that I like the cut of his jib, I like the way he’s talking, I like how definite he is in his press conference and how articulately he comes across. Jos Hooiveld was a good talker too but you need to do it on the pitch.

 

Aye because we all know Anthony Stokes was a superb lone striker under Neil Lennon. He's clearly thrown a strop because Lenny isn't here eh?

He got the teams and tactics fundamentally wrong.

 

I honestly dont know if I should laugh or cry ffs.

 

I make absolutely no excuse for his coaching over the two Champions League games, and from what I've seen and heard neither has he.

I said after the first game that he should be looking to implement his own style when the SPFL season is underway. But he didn't, so we have to move on.

He has a style of playing, and we either give him time to sell & buy his way to making a fist of that, or we may as well throw in the towel.

As far as the board goes, I'm not going to be critical of them until the end of the transfer window. For anyone to say they haven't supported the manager already is mental, especially when the manager has basically said he's just started identifying targets.

If the window shuts and there's been no progress then my opinion will change.

Until then, it's all happy clapping for me!