The Eternal Derby

Grobari (Gravediggers) is an umbrella group, with lots of little fraction within. Off the top of my head there is Alcatraz, Head Hunters and 40+ but there are dozens of them.

The civil war is with Zabranjeni (The Forbidden) and Alcatraz. Grobari is involved in a fair amount of money making activities, so these sub-fractions are fighting for overall control and there is a lot of money riding on this. Last week there was a murder of a Zabranjeni leader.

EDIT: Tifosi beat me to it

 

40+ Also brought Curva Sud Milano onto the Curva. Other groups attacked both of them, saying they only made the friendship to make money etc.

 

a few things are causing the problems within the the groups the group Forbidden say Alcatraz are working with police and say they are steeling money from fans.

 

Didn't 40+ create a display for CSM? Or so the rumour goes?

 

You'll know more about it than me, but I seem to remember reading a few things behind the divide within the PSG support, how it came about when Paris FC and St Germain formed to create PSG, then again seem to remember reading about how PSG attract not only the far right but also a lot of immigrant youth from Paris not sure if this plays a part. I really have no clue on the subject, just remember that night at Paradise.

Probably not on the same scale but that bit about the Alcatraz lad being with the Red Star reminds me about the story about the ex CSC guy who ended up running with the ICF and moving in BNP circles.

 

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the Delije Red Stars group.

 

Don't recall hearing that mate, maybe. Remember the let them stick their banner on the Curva without the other groups giving it the go ahead.

Not uncommon this right enough - Happened at Lazio a few years back with IRR.

Yeah- PSG had far right/Left and immigrant support. Literally insane what happened there amongst the groups.

 

good bump from the delije haha

 

This is why i always say celtic park is tame.

Love how football is supported in passion on the continent

 

Alcatraze have involvement with people at the club too, board members.
Also involvement in tickets

 

crazy stuff with them kinda * up in some way.

 

There was a video posted on here a few months with the display and singing from a team in Serbia I think. Can't mind who but it was * unreal. I would love to experience it some time

 

please Packy, it's one of the best derbies in the world.

lol you take the terms too literally, partizan fans refer to RS as gypsies, though zvezda fans sing 'we are gypsies and we are the strongest'.

I've never heard anyone call Zvezda fans '* or beggars'.

 

Well aren't they braindead fannies..

Who the * in their right mind starts fires or wears a balaclava to a game?

 

yeah it was alcatraz (infiltrated by drug dealers/criminals) and the grobari trying to get at each other:smiley-laughing002::icon_lol:digging their own hole again:icon_lol:

they set soutern parts of the stadium on fire and burned their scarves:icon_lol::smiley-laughing002::icon_redface: morons.

Partizan's support groups are made up of various factions bickering with each other.

alcatraz snitch to the pigs about the Grobari, steal fan's money and don't let the grobari enter the stadium as they'll get arrested. As far as the Grobari are concerned alcatraz don't care for the club, they use PZ to make money for themselves.

various corrupt mafia individuals have infiltrated PZ groups to push their own agendas > extortion, racketeering, drugs e.t.c

If all the PZ ultras were united together, these mafia individuals would get kicked out.

pity the game was rigged from the start.

 

its Serbian football anything can and will happen during a game.

 

As I said,fannies all.

 

put it this way if celtic played Partizan at celtic park they would do more than what ajax done the other night.

 

Exactly. They are savages.