The Boxing Thread

Best fight I’ve ever seen. Serious respect to Wilder. Those two men have hearts of lions.

 

Fury seemed cautious of upping it the few times Wilder looked on the brink, seemed to not have his usual fitness level probably just natural from aging that plus the 2 knockdowns from Wilder although the 2nd did look a bit like Fury taking a dive for a breather and to see out the round so the first knockdown was a good one and could almost have won.

 

Wilder needs to retire. He’s going to get badly hurt if he keeps going.

He’s a freak show. A right hand bomb. Courageous. But nothing else. One of the worst fighters to hold a heavyweight belt.

Fury could have boxed his head off tonight, but instead chose to make it a ‘fight’. Gypsy King is a showman right enough!

 

Well the gypsy king prevails yet again what a fight!! Wilder looked like he was out on his feet for about 3 rounds but just couldn’t finish him... fair play massive heart. America...CONQUERED

 

He must fancy his chances against Usyk and Joshua first though. Looking at some of the stuff Fury hit him with and how long he hung on you wouldn't fancy Usyk to knock him out then the other way round if he catches Usky with even 20% of the big ones he hit Fury with it would be goodnight.

Still has a chance to make good money and prove himself as the 2nd best of the era.

Nobody else probably comes close to beating Fury yet he was inches away in 2 of the 3 fights.

 

That was epic from the first round to when Fury put him to sleep.

Wilder has a hard right hand and nothing else. To be a champion you've got to be a lot smarter than waiting around to get the perfect shot. He looked a broken man at the end there.

Fury has had his number from day one. If that fight had have been in the UK I dare say wilder would've gone in round 1 or 2. What is it about American fighters that they never wanna fight out of the country.

Well done Tyson, well deserved

 

Probably Tax, is that not why they always fight in Vegas. In the UK theyd lose half their money then maybe even be taxed again in America.

 

Ah never thought of that tbf mate

 

Wilder is still a decent boxer, who has been champion and held his belt for 5 years, he just isn't as good as Fury. I think he could knockout Joshua to be honest.
Regarding fights in America, well its money isn't it. There is a reason Fury has had his last 5 fights there. The latest they can main event a fight in the UK is around 1am, earlier if in a stadium. That stops US ppv buys and probably * off the boxer's own sponsors.

Edit : tax is also a big part, they would get taxed twice.

 

Fury "I went over to him to say well done, but he didn't want to show any sportsmanship or respect"

Wow, wilder is a sore loser and a * baby.

 

In think that just sounds like Fury trying to be a *.

 

Wilder and Joshua are great athletes who were relative latecomers to the sport and it’s caught up on them.

Fury and Usyk have been fighting their whole lives and it shows big time.

 

In Fury's defence I did see him go over amd offer his thanks and respect and wilder just lifting his arm telling him to go away.

I thinks it's got something to do with Wilder's corner complaining about certain punches.

 

And people think Wilder isn't better than AJ.

AJ would get ko by Wilder, no doubt. And I like AJ.

Fury on a different level from anyone around. If he keeps on top of his struggles outside of the ring, he could dominate for years.

 

It actually happened in front of cameras and wilder * off to locker room abruptly with no interview I can see him not attending post fight presser ….. he is being a baby he knows he’s * as he has no rematch clause now fury doesn’t have to fight him again he will need to build up again to earn any shot at any title


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I know what your saying both took up sport as young men rather than young boys but wilder has had 45 fights the problem is it’s 41 knock outs too many of those fights were bums and when that happens you don’t get enough rounds in and experience in your lungs of going the distance very same thing happening with Joshua


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The whole point of my argument was black and white facts and proven record. Youre talking opinion here. Wilder may well be better than some of these people but we'll never know because he refuses to fight them. With exception of Fury, Ortiz and Stiverne, he's never fought anyone else ranked within the top 20 never mind top 10. That's unforgivable for someone who was holding the WBC for as long as he done.

 

Disagree.

There’s plenty of doubt.

The one thing that last night reiterated was that each of the current top heavyweights have their own strengths and vulnerabilities.

People talk about elite level heavyweight boxing with far too much certainty imo. They’re big, big blokes, hitting harder than anyone else on earth, and all capable of hurting one another. Nobody expected Fury to suffer two knockdowns yesterday, and yet he did. That’s what makes the division so exciting - they’ve all clearly got vulnerabilities.

 

They shouldn’t have been interviewing post fight imo. I don’t like see it if a fighter has been stopped usually, unless he’s very clearly recovered, but Wilder was fighting on heart for a number of rounds there, while taking a lot of big shots.

No idea if he made the post fight presser, but no way a microphone should’ve been stuck in front of him immediately after that.

 

Fury didn’t start boxing until about 16 as far as I’m aware, whereas Joshua started at 18.

Usyk is the one that’s technically head and shoulders above all of the others.