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The Boxing Thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by Liam Scales, Jul 1, 2011.

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  1. ILoveTheCeltic

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    Aye, would still be interesting now but if it happened 4 year ago when they were probably both at their peaks it could have been a legendary fight. Now you feel they arent as good as they were and so thered still be the "what if" about them a few years ago.
     
  2. seanbee01

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    Mayweathers team are going to want to demand everything and be in control of everything for this to happen Manny will have to no doubt bow down to all his demands and if it does not happen the ' what if ' will go on for a long long time.
     
  3. King of Kings

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    He's not glass jawed :87: He's been KO'd twice (once when he was 22) in his career and has been fighting at world level for years. During that time he's eaten more flush shots than most. He doesn't have a MAyweather or Pacquiao jaw but it's not nearly as weak as people make out. I don't know anyone that thought Maidana would cause Mayweather problems, style wise he is pretty much tailor-made for Mayweather, if anything he should have made the first fight far easier than it was.
     
  4. King of Kings

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    He IS world class, it isn't even up for debate.

    The Devon Alexander you say is weak made far easier work of Maidana than Mayweather did in either bout.
     
  5. Nasser

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    There are a lot of fighters that would destroy Khan any heavy puncher with a bit of skill like Garcia destroys Khan. That's why Khan has hand picked his fights feather punchers like Alexander as he wants his big pay day against Mayweather it's all about the money with Khan. Kell Brook would also be too much for Khan.
     
  6. King of Kings

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    He gets a criminally hard time from boxing fans in the UK in general, for some reason he's held to a standard that others aren't. I find myself defending him on here all the time when I don't even particularly like him. :smiley-laughing002:

    If you take RING magazine rankings from before the Alexander vs Khan fight you can see that he's ranked number 9 in the world at welterweight. Personally I would have him top 5 at welterweight behind Mayweather, Pacquiao, Marquez and Bradley - and I actually think he would beat Bradley. He's definitely world class.
     
  7. King of Kings

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    Tell me who these big punching fighters that would destroy Khan are then.
     
  8. seanbee01

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    Devon Alexander has not thought great fighters he has thought Bradley who is good and lost he thought shawn porter who is good and lost he thought khan whos good and lost the rest of his opponents maidana aside were not good fighters.

    And Maidana back then wasn't that good either he was someone well beatable he really came on to be a good fighter against Martinez then lopez then broner who nobody expected him to beat.

    U don't have to tell me Khan is good but he is not world class because you fight on the world stage that makes you world class ? :D
     
  9. King of Kings

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    Yes, fighting and winning on the world stage generally means you're world class.

    You've just listed Bradley, Khan, Maidana and Porter as evidence that Alexander doesn't fight tough competition. With the exception of Khan they are all tough, high risk/low reward fights for someone like Alexander.

    The Maidana than and now are very similar fighters, albeit now he has a slightly refined jab. He's a come-forward slugger who likes to fight up close and can't deal well with lateral movement.
     
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    Garcia,Brook,Broner,Bradley maybe even Peterson. And if they changed weight Saúl Álvarez,Cotto, lots that would trouble Khan.
     
  11. seanbee01

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    You are clearly just a Khan fan and no one here has said he is a bad fighter you just cant accept that people have opinions and don't rate him as highly as yourself he is not world class if you want to talk world class you have Ali , Tyson , Mayweather , Pacquiao < that is boxing elite Amir Khan does not rank among those men.
     
  12. seanbee01

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    Add Golovkin to that list he would have khan down on the canvas easily.
     
  13. King of Kings

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    So a natural light middleweight, a guy who couldn't even drop Khan let alone KO him despite failing a drugs test for testosterone after the bout and a guy with 12 stoppages in 33 fights? That's clutching at straws.

    Garcia obviously could and Cotto probably could as well (again fighting at light middleweight now). Brook and Broner? Neither currently have the names on their record that Khan does, they're both heavy handed so could land something big but would start the fight as underdogs.

    And you missed out Marquez :50:
     
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    Yeh the middelweight champ could KO a new welterweight :smiley-laughing002: reckon the Klitschko's could prob do it to :rolleyes:

    Like I said a few posts back - ridiculously high standards.
     
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    You're confusing world class with all time great.

    Maradona, Messi and Pele are all time great footballers. You don't have to meet their standards to be considered world class.
     
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    Yead add Marquez as well, Kell Brook beat Shawn Porter, Porter is a big name.
     
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    Maybe me and you just call world class different things on Saturday night a lot of people thought on the under card on the world stage are they world class to ? your opinion is just different to mine its that simple now I am away to watch the draw.
     
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    Brook did a good job against Porter, but it doesn't stack up to Khan's wins against Kotelnik, Maidana, Alexander, Judah and Maliganggi.

    Brook could well KO him if they fought, he's a big puncher and dangerously sharp on the counter. I think the most likely outcome though would be Khan on points.
     
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    No, they're not fighting at world level :97:

    Ultimately he is one of the best boxers in the world at his weight class - which is actually very strong just now incidentally. I don't think anyone disputes that he's in the top 10 in the world. That's why he's world class.
     
  20. Nasser

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    lol Kotelnik & Maliganggi, Porter destroyed Maliganggi. As soon as Khan fights a big puncher he is in trouble. Kell Brook vs Khan fight would be interesting. I think Brook would win but it would be close. A Pac-man vs Khan or Khan vs Mayweather would likely be KO or big points win for both boxers against Khan.