Suicide

There is an exception in terms of cowardice. Adolf Hitler.

 

He's saying it's a selfish act - regardless of their mental state.

 

Yes, it is still a selfish act. Regardless of circumstances. It's never not a selfish act, a tragedy and something that is absolutely heartbreaking but it is still a selfish act.

I don't require anything of anyone. All i'm saying is suicide essentially, is selfish.



Can anyone argue it is unselfish? People have tried to explain peoples frame of mind and I understand all the reasons behind it, it doesn't stop it from being very selfish.

 

The fact that this person is not stable enough to make a decision is argument enough as to why this is an unselfish act many that have committed and got over it know how stupid thy were thinking it was right, it's not a selfish act just an act of desperation and instability.

Also if the act is selfish then surely you see assisted suicide as a selfish act amongst two people

 

It's still selfish though, taking your own life leaving absolute devastation behind. I don't see how it can be seen as anything but selfish.

I'm not criticising them for doing it, as its * tragic. I just think it's a fact doing it is very selfish.

 

It's a selfish act born out of desperation and instability.

 

Assisted suicide is selfish as well but I'm all for it. It's generally a decision that has been well thought out with themselves and others.

 

Well done mate! Exactly what I was trying to say.

 

So say someone terminally ill that has months to live and commits suicide which does happen, they are selfish maybe if they did it so their family wouldn't go through the suffering of seeing them wither away and the life slowly drain from them, I wouldn't call that a selfish act to be honest

 

Instead of fighting it and possibly living? They'll a family dvastated in their wake so it's still selfish for you to do it.

A mother kills herself leaving two young children behind to be raise by others? Not selfish?

 

Circumstances unknown to call this person selfish, what if the person is deranged and doesn't see the impact this will have on others is it selfish then? There may be cases where it is a tragedy but to brand them selfish isn't right in my opinion for their state of mind would not b like the common persons

 

I have obviously thought about it, everyone has. But considered it even a wee bit? Can't say I have.

 

Doesn't matter about the circumstances. I've said several times that I'm not calling the people selfish, I'm saying suicide is a selfish act.

 

Everyone is selfish in these situations, the people wanting to kill themselves and the family and friends trying to convince them not to.

 

I have to agree with Mairtin there, he said terminally ill so it would be incureable cancer or such.
That to me would not be a selfish act as such, that is moreso the person not wanting themselves or their family to see them in a hospice bed for maybe a couple of months suffering knowing they are only prolonging the inevitable.

 

A selfish act if someone is in the right frame of mind then yes, it's like saying about thieving if someone is dying of hunger and steals bread to feed their family and then there is someone who robs an old granny for her pension just to have some more money. Would you class these two acts in the same category I for one wouldn't and that is the way I see it to be honest

 

Of course it's selfish.

If a person has incurable cancer, or some other *-awful affliction, are you telling me that they are not thinking mainly/totally about there self when they make the decision to terminate their life "early"?

*please not that not ALL selfish decisions are wrong, and that when people say selfish, it does not automatically = negative connotation.

 

I would class both as theiving because thats what it is. Regardless of circumstances it's still theft, one of them is theough very sad unfortunate circumstances the other are *. Both are theiving.

I'm not talking about the people here or anyones circumstances. I'm just saying, suicide is a selfish act.

 

Again saying what I'm trying to say

 

But would you say that it was a selfish act both of these acts of thieving?