[Link] Stuart Armstrong

utd are quite right to insist on this kind of fee, they owe us absolutely nothing, and shouldn't do us any favours. besides which, they'll most probably get that fee, from an English team. not their fault we won't spend what their valuation is, while others will.

as for DU and Aberdeen getting too big for their boots... absolute nonsense. they sense we may be vulnerable/desperate and are pushing us/holding us to ransom a little. all fair in a fair competition, we just got used to the rubbish old firm monopoly. This is all good for the long term if it continues...

 

I'd rather we didn't have to pay a big fee for anyone but to be fair, that money will only be re-invested back into Scottish football and if it makes the competition better then I'm all for it.

And if for some miraculous circumstance that the huns are in the SPL next season, then they will be up against some teams who will walk all over them.

They will not finish above Celtic, Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, Inverness or Hearts.

 

sorry lavelle, i disagree

rangers will do what they (oldco) always did... they'll buy exactly these kind of players, so strengthening themselves while weakening the opposition. That's why the longer they stay out of the spl and in financial strife the better. theyll get to spl, have a share offer to 'finance their return to the old firm rivalry', the great unwahed, and externally gullible will dig deep again (gotta stop 10 in a row) and after the fatcats skim it they'll throw every single penny into the team - thus buying their way vack to the top, completing a circle of decay to the scottish game... and the Spl and msm will cheer and proclaim the king is dead, long live the king...
thats why i hope they fold afain, and bever return...

 

Sorry saltire, but in going to have to disagree with you now. For most clubs, local rivalries are one of the key components in driving a club to become bigger and better. Without some sort of major rivalry most clubs would just wither away and die.

Not wanting Rangers to return is very short sighted. It won't benefit our club in anyway. I can't exactly see Partick thistle driving us on to dominate the domestics and become a force in Europe.

The oldco's strategy that saw them get into the mess they ended up in doesn't exactly sit well with me or probably anyone who loves the game, but if anything we should appreciate the fact that they probably wouldn't have gone down that line if they weren't so worried about us.

Personally, I'd rather see a properly run newco back in our league and hopefully restoring some of the reputation back into our game. And even if they go back to the oldco ways, and take titles away from us every now and then at least it would still motivate us to improve.....I don't think many people on here could honestly believe that we have improved on the pitch since they left.

 

You don't mind the fact they weren't good enough to beat us without cheating
& would accept it again?

ffs I can't catch my breath, you must be at it, trolling, or thick.

 

You seem to have focused on the least relevant part of my post but fair enough, I can understand your reaction.

To be honest, I don't really give a * how other clubs run themselves (don't get me wrong, I'd much rather see them run in a fair and proper way), as long as our club is run the right way then I'm happy. But what I also care about is seeing our club improve, set high expectations and every now and then meet and maybe exceed those expectations

Football is rife with corruption, liars and cheats. It always will be. But regardless of whether our rivals do things in the right or wrong way, without them we will just stagnate....would you rather have that?

 

Can he play wide or is he a central midfielder? We have too many centre mids and not enough wide players.

 

He's worth £2.75mil max and you might as well go up to £3mil if they aren't budging. He's a very good player.

 

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...ich-Albion-Bid-Dundee-United-Stuart-Armstrong

Typical.

 

What?
Celtic would haggle the best price for a player and have done so with Wanyama and Forster etc. We stood our ground on a fee..
Aberdeen and Dundee United are wrong for doing the same?

 

It shouldn't come as a surprise that the fee is high. The price was known in the Summer. Teams were looking at him and the price was set back then.

We should pay it because getting through against Milan, we may well need the running power, someone with the power to hold off players, some skill and imagination to split open the defense.

Otherwise it's gonna be a tough, tough game away in Milan.

 

I'm all for taking a gamble on young Scottish players. We regularly talk about the ones that got away on this forum (Fletcher, McCarthy, Russell etc). Let's not make the same mistake with Armstrong.

If Celtic are serious, then the guys who make things happen need to act quickly.

 

Naw.

 

seriously? thank * you're not CFO...

A multi million £ price should always be haggled over... after all, it's not their money they're * away...

 

Listen, Armstrong in the Summer was seen as being their most valuable player, so if Gauld goes for £3million that would be a ball park figure of a starting price.

You either pay the money or you don't.

What some people will call haggling, i'm calling wasting valuable time.

I think maybe the money is their. I'm judging that on complete guesswork based on what we've been told. We were told a price had been agreed for Guidetti, £3million.
We maybe looked at Odegaard and that might have been a similar fee.

So if their was/is the money to do those deals, then we can't be that far off a price for Armstrong.

 

[QUOTagreeoskopicachu;4457964]Listen, Armstrong in the Summer was seen as being their most valuable player, so if Gauld goes for £3million that would be a ball park figure of a starting price.

You either pay the money or you don't.

What some people will call haggling, i'm calling wasting valuable time.

I think maybe the money is their. I'm judging that on complete guesswork based on what we've been told. We were told a price had been agreed for Guidetti, £3million.
We maybe looked at Odegaard and that might have been a similar fee.

So if their was/is the money to do those deals, then we can't be that far off a price for Armstrong.[/QUOTE]

Yeah agree think 3 million is fair enough considering gauld and robertson went for roughly that price with him being arguably the best of the three. Think that's just the going rate for talented young Scottish prospects even the lb at hamilton is getting touted for that kind of money and he's nowhere near armstrongs level

 

Maybe we have put this deal on hold, waiting to see what happens with the Fletcher deal.

We might not need or want to pay for both...

 

We'll never get Fletcher, and would prefer Armstrong anyway but doubt we'll get either.

 

I think this deal will be completed on deadline day with a small fee for GMS also completed. If they bring him in now or last week the fans will be looking for someone else on deadline day and be disappointed but if we wait then bring both in the fans will be happy. Lawwell isn't daft he understands the psychology involved in the transfer market, he has regularly completed business on deadline day. Would like to see ambrose moved on and a different centre back brought in.