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Stefan Johansen

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by SloBhoy, Jan 15, 2014.

Discuss Stefan Johansen in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Kyogo Furuhashi Gold Member Gold Member

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    :rofl:
     
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    Well Mulgrew was actually a pretty solid player at all those position's you listed. He also gave more heart and passion into his game then Johansen has shown in a year. Lenny had his favourites but he wasn't nearly as ridged with the team selection as Ronny.
     
  4. Zander

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    You honestly just constantly make up * in yer heid
     
  5. wanyama1967

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    The fact was though he always found a place for Mulgrew no matter what even at the expense of better players in their positions. Prime example is last 16 CL against Juve, Lenny goes with Wanyama, Mulgrew and Brown in the middle, but remember who was on the bench? Ledley and Kayal both on the bench that night and can't get a game over Mulgrew in midfield when both were 10x the player Mulgrew was in that position? Was definite favouritism going on back then. It's nothing new though, almost happens with every manager apart from the very, very strong ones.

    I'd also argue against him being pretty solid in every position he's played in more or less, we've always had a player imo better than the positions he's played in over the last 6 years of him being here.
    Don't think anyone would argue that Johansen wasn't a favourite under Ronny and that Mulgrew wasn't a favourite under Lenny.
     
  6. Zander

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    "Johansen worming his way into the new manager to become his new bezzy mate it seems. I can see this guys tactic"

    Fabricated in your head. Made up bullshit and your whole post was structured around it.
     
  7. Kyogo Furuhashi Gold Member Gold Member

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    He won POTY, Lennon have every right to stand by him because he new he could get the job done, even when his form dipped it wasn't down to a lack of effort, Johansens attitude was all wrong, he looked like he couldn't be arsed and it showed on the pitch, that's why people wanted him dropped.
     
  8. Sean Daleer Ten Thirty Gold Member

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    Are you making that up in your head because of a couple of pictures? :smiley-laughing002:
     
  9. wanyama1967

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    You won't get an argument with me regarding Johansen as I want him out the door asap, but the year Mulgrew won POTY lets be honest it was more because of his goals from that position than his defensive ability, remember the howlers he had against Killie and Motherwell away?

    If he was that good at CB he would have remained there but instead he was taken out of that position because Lenny didn't trust him there and he was replaced with a Kelvin Wilson/Ambrose and Van Dijk/Ambrose partnership under Lenny. After that Lenny tried to accommodate him anywhere he could, it was getting to the stage he probably asked Mulgrew to consider putting on some gloves :smiley-laughing002:.
     
  10. wanyama1967

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    Obviously I'm exaggerating quite a bit but Johansen has been pretty close to Brendan over last couple weeks, always walking alongside him at training from vids I've seen on Celtic YouTube and in some pictures that get posted regularly in training.

    Anyway, I'm confident Johansen will be gone within the next couple weeks hopefully.
     
  11. Zander

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    So you made it up based on essentially * all.
     
  12. Account Deactivated Gold Member Gold Member

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    I aren't being funny here this is one of silliest things I have ever read in my life :smiley-laughing002:

    If you honestly think that players at any club in the world are picked because they are the managers "Bezzy mate" you are out of your mind pal, I can assure you from my personal experience and lectures in the football industry that friendships do not gain you positions in teams, football is a cut throat business managers cannot afford to make personal decisions because they will lose there jobs over it and if Stefan is trying to * lick his way into the team I would say it will have a detrimental effect on his chances of getting into the team these guys are grown ups not play kids. You could be the managers best friend in the world and they wont have any leverage over someone who is better but a lesser friend. Why Ronny kept picking Stefan I don't know I imagine he was a training ground superstar either way Rodgers or any manager in the world will not be picking players trying to be there friend they will pick the best players they feel for the job.

    As for Mulgrew it has been mentioned but he won POTY under Lennon so why wouldn't he pick him?
     
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  13. Swervedancer Guest

    There is one thing Johnsen has to offer and that's boundless energy and pressing. I'll admit he was never the same player since he won POTY but I think some of that reason must be down to him not playing just behind the striker again and Ronny had him playing deeper where he would have been effective if it wasn't for the mistiming of his tackles.

    So basically I think Johansen still has a player of the year performance in him if not quite in the same position I think Brendan might find a way to utilise that energy.

    On the other hand it looks like he's going to run down his contract (just a feeling I have) so he might not play a lot at all. The captain's armband was interesting though.
     
  14. Kyogo Furuhashi Gold Member Gold Member

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    I don't think there was favouritism at all, the season he won POTY he was a back up player in Lennons mind until Izzy broke his ankle up at Aberdeen.
     
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    Because he won POTY at CB, but Lenny then decided to remove him from there and play him everywhere else he could like I said be it LB, CM, CDM or LM. He even went as far as picking Mulgrew who was never a natural midfielder in his life over two players who had played that position all their lives and were 10x better there than Mulgrew yet Ledley and Kayal couldn't get a start in midfield ahead of him in a last 16 tie against Juve in the CL, surely that has to be favouritism because who honestly thinks Mulgrew over Ledley in midfield is a sane choice? Got to be something more to it than that, I've heard because over Mulgrew's set pieces but surely you can't play a player down to that alone? Surely it's got to be about overall ability in a game in midfield and there is no way Mulgrew should have started in anyway over Ledley that night. A mind boggling decision.
     
  16. Swervedancer Guest

    Well you might be wright but you also might be wrong. Lennon took us to the last 16 so I would never say he was incompetent or had favouritsm.

    You might be wright in that be possible made the wrong decision but we'll never know until he brings out a book maybe. Isn't it possible he felt Ledely and Kayal weren't totally fit? I just very much doubt it was Chico and Lenny were best friends for such important games.

    You have to admit it's circumstantial evidence you are using and that can always be misinterpreted.

    I do believe Ronny had favourite players but not because he liked them, it was because he felt they understood and suited the system he was trying to implement. I can see very young rookie managers making that mistake often enough but not for too long.
     
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    A mind boggling decision perhaps but if I think back to both Juve games we where very unlucky to lose where we not? Besides Mulgrew keeps the ball well and offers a better defensive game than both Ledely and Kayal Lennons thoughts where perhaps that sticking him in midfield would make it more solid, turns out it didn't but hey ho we got to the last 16? Besides if you think Lennon choose Mulgrew over Kayal and ledley in the last 16 in the championship league I'm just gonna tell you plain straight your wrong, champions league football isn't playtime football.
     
  18. The Golden God I am untethered and my rage knows no bounds Gold Member

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    Johansen gets so much undeserved stick off people on here.
     
  19. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    Agreed.

    Been here two years, came here as a Norwegian young prospect, played a blinder of a first season collecting poty.
    Second season took an injury which hampered the start of the season.

    Rest of the season he was played in various positions - central midfield of a midfield 2 he is not that good in. The whole team (bar griffiths, Tierney and sviatchhenko) had a * season for various reasons. Bit harsh to single him out soo much.
    Think he deserves a chance to put last season behind him. Just like brown, bitton, gms, armstrong, lustig, Gordon, etc all do as well.

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  20. ChrisMoh

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    is he off yet?thought galatasaray had a 2 million bid accepted.