Sion Thrown Out Of Europe?

i dont as there all cheats end off

 

Forgot SION OUT CELTIC IN that time Mikey

 

Whilst I would agree with your post, the first and last sentences are pretty unnecessary. There's no need for it, is there? The guy's come over here to post his opinion, which he's entitled to. *, if we were on the other side we'd probably be looking for reasons as to why we shouldn't be thrown out too.

So go easy on the guy. We don't want to give others a bad impression of our fanbase. We don't stoop to the Hun's level.

Apart from that, good post mate

 

If you read what the guy said you'll see exactly where I'm coming from, that sort of deluded rambling deserves no less of the amount of contempt I directed towards the guy and his post. Idiots should be treated as such. The thing is, if we fielded ineligible players in a game and deserved to be punished we wouldn't be looking for excuses, I believe most of our anger would be directed towards our own club for being so stupid.

Giving a bad impression of our fanbase and stooping to the Huns level would be going on the rampage in a city after losing a UEFA Cup final or travelling abroad to a Champions League tie and tearing out the seats at the game and throwing them at the local police or even continuing to sing sectarian songs after repeated warnings from UEFA which ultimately lead to a heavy fine. The whole "don't stoop to the Huns level" thing, especially on internet forums is just over dramatic in my opinion.

 

Fair enough. Like I said, I pretty much agree with everything you had to say. I just didn't think the extras were necessary, that's all

 

If you look at it from Sion's perspective they were * if they did and * if they didn't.
Could you imagine Celtic playing without any of their summer signings and we ain't even signed 6 (5 now I think not including youngsters) you would have to say we would be in a much weaker position. Would you want to face Athletico Madrid et al without a single signing since January. And we all know how * ranker's squad is due to an almost complete lack of investment.
Since they took the gamble they have to wait until FIFA decide whether or not they have been cheating.
Either way the prize was being in the Europa league.

Although I would have to say their chairman sounds quite the character which may explain why they took the bigger risk (fines etc.).

The definition of the crime is pretty black and white, the culprit caught red handed, it remains to be seen if the punishment will benefit Celtic.

Until then . . . . speculation.

Hail Hail

 

Remember English, the hardest language in the world to learn according to linguists, probably ain't the guys first language.

Bet you sound like a rambling buffoon if you spoke to him in Swedish, I know I certainly would!

 

It wasn't the spelling, grammar or the way he put sentences together that I was being critical of, it was what he was saying, which was crystal clear despite the language barrier.

 

Yeh but the FANS aint the cheats - it's this Constantin guy and the heads of Sion that have done it all spouting * knows what kind of * to the fans, probably trying to make out that they are the innocent party in all this when it's them that ignored the transfer ban.

The guy has his opinion on it and is just trying to defend his team on certain matters. That's all he's doing and we would do the same if anyone was slagging off Celtic. I don't feel sympathy towards the team because ultimately it's the team that has let their fans down by doing all of this. I just feel sorry for their fans because they are the innocent party being led up the garden path.

He's not coming on here slagging us off and he actually said in an earlier post that if Celtic do get to replace Sion he would actually hope they do well and he hopes we smash the huns as well :icon_mrgreen:

 

Originally Posted by gabu1909
"we did what every club do, in respect with the players, the others club and all.. like all fair club do. you're searching reasons to excuse your elimination : "they winned because... )." no, you lost against a real team, built like all clubs build a team."

Aye mate, crystal clear

I kind of get what you mean, I think. But you cannot chastise the guy and abuse him for defending his team.

He makes a perfect point that his team fielded a team which beat us fair and square, it wasn't tapped up, it wasn't made using the banks money and it wasn't put together using shiehk or oil monies.
Which is why alot of fans on here are a little apprehensive about taking their place.

So I say your being harsh on the dude, he isn't the be all end all, he is just voicing an opinion and even if it were deluded I notice that you have no authority on here and have no right to silence him or force him to change his opinion by categorising him as what we distance ourselves from the most, the hun.

 

But it wasn't fair and square, that's the whole point! Fielding individuals that the club were prohibited from signing in the first place is breaking not one but two rules of the game, signing them in the first place when under a transfer ban and playing them when they shouldn't have them. The whole "beat us fair and square" argument fails right there, it doesn't matter if these players were Ronaldo, Kaka', Xavi, Ibrahimovic and Cesc Fabregas or 5 unknown players that came from the most obscure leagues in Europe, they're still ineligible and it's still deliberately breaking the laws of the game.

I didn't say I had any authority on here, neither did I try to silence him, in fact I'd have been happy for him to reply to my post and try to condone the actions of his club against the facts I posted. I gave my opinion on his views, I made the point that his views are stupid and ill-informed, there is no defending cheating in the game which is exactly what he was trying to do. Some people on here seem to be a little bit too sensitive :icon_mrgreen:

 

I'm pretty sure some of the 54 who voted that Celtic shouldn't be are actually gremlins in disguise.

For the record I never said we shouldn't be in the Europa league. I was just saying I wish we earned our way in. I'm sure thats how most tims feel.

 

Obviously we'd prefer to ''earn'' our way in but they broke the rules and we'll reap the rewards.

I have Celtic's best intrests at heart only and our intrests are European football.

I quite frankly dont give a * how we get there.

 

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The fact that the whole episode is dragging on in the way that it is, it doesn't give me confidence of a reinstating of Celtic back into the competition.

The non trusting part of me has got the alarm bells on to a plan being concocted to keep the draw as it is.

What I was saying previously is that Sion's European squad was approved by the Swiss FA. This is the first that I have heard this, so who really knows the true story and how would we be able to prove otherwise if it comes out ' oh actually their ban was lifted'.

OR

Sion where only acting on what the Swiss FA allowed them to do , so we don’t think a ban would be a necessarily punishment at the time.

Fines to both the FA and club with players in question not being allowed to participate in the remainder of competition.

Otherwise it would have been over by now and we would have been reinstated.

 

Agreed, why would you not want your team to play against Atletico Madrid, even though we are certain to get pumped, is a nice few days away from UK, and a break from the mundane tasks like St Mirren and Ra*gers

 

Eh I don't quite buy it. Thousands of players are bought and loaned throughout Uefa's jurisdiction each window without repercussion. The fact that your procedure was held in contempt speaks to your clubs actions, actions that according to the ruling bodies our clubs play by, are out of order. I know as a club, Celtic will accept what ultimately is the decision of our ruling body (uefa), the question is, why has your club not saw fit to abide by that ruling in the first place. You can argue the initial ruling all you want but the club knew full well it was breaching the sentence Uefa handed down. It seems your clubs fans deserve better than the actions of your owner and I for one hope you get it, sooner than later. In the matter at hand, Celtic deserve to be put back in draw, not by merit of quality of play but by merit of fair play. You will never know if your legal squad was better and if I can place myself as a Sion fan, that would be what would eat me up, weather or not we needed the illegal players.
Cheers.

 

Still, I have the feeling that after the Sion debacle most of our anger is directed to Sion allegedly fielding ineligible players, instead at our team for playing for *.

But UEFA should come up with a decision so we can leave all this behind.

 

I think that the anger towards our own team is still there, it's just been overshadowed by the cheating allegations.