Show the world......on Sunday

Great idea, atmosphere should be amazing. By the way guys, I have virgin media and the game is on the red button, anyone know if i'll be able to see it or can only sky customers see it?

 

definately an old one, my dad got into a few scraps with tims for them singing that.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPJy7JaazBM[/YOUTUBE]

CMONNNNNNNNNN

 

Doubt you will mate. You'll get a stream online but!

 

Hail, Hail to that

PS N offence to you GD but I Find your picture a bit offensive. Do not know if you have read the story in the paper today about a terrible incident that happened to a woman in Tenerife.

 

Mate I'm not a catholic although I come from a largely catholic family.I don't find the song offensive at all.there is one thing singing songs about your own religion and another about slating another religion which the huns do

 

* off and dont ruin the thread wi your wee snidey comments

 

If you dont think that or roman in the gloamin are sectarian in their remarks against protestants and their founders etc then you are blind. Calling anti-protestant songs 'pro-catholic' is total mental gymnastics and utter denial. Its like the huns calling anti-catholic songs 'pro-protestant'. They are sectarian. I dispair of peoples amazing ability to see fault in others but total blindness to their own. That is one of the most delusional posts I have ever seen. No better than the excuses Rangers fans give.

 

That old chestnut again

The only protestant mentioned in this is John Knox..

Wether or not he is the founder of Protestantism in Scotland has no relevance...he was culpable for the plotting and ordering of the murder of catholic, as well as the persecution of those who practiced it.....so in that case....* JOHN KNOX INDEED......and we don't need to go into the semantics of 'King Billy' now do we?

 

So if someone was walking down the street singing * The Pope, and you complained it was sectarian, and the guy responded "Whether or not he's the head of the Catholic Church has no relevance, he's culpable for worsening the spread of aids in Africa" - you would reply "My apologies mate, I can see now it wasn't sectarian at all"?

 

It would depend on what Pope it was to be honest mate.

I'm not being pernickety(spel.) here, but if it was about one of the Pope's (including the one who sanctioned KB) into killing people, then yes....* them too.

The thing is, there is more than one 'Pope', leader of the Catholic church.

There is only one 'john Knox' leader of the protestant movement in Scotland......

Hence * the Pope is generalized '* Catholicness'.......

* John Knox is just * a 'murdering *'.

 

whatever happens the morra lads we all should be upbeat on here yes we may be gutted but the way our team is forming and a cup final next week! things will get a lot bettrfor us next season. * the huns and * fat cow sally,nairat,jelacunt,wnkerty infact just * off diddies

 

Laughin ma * off !! very good - am in your gang mate !!

 

again, only critiquing one side. John Knox is like St. Paul or the Pope to the church the vast majority of christian Scots belong to. Its actually worse than saying FTP. The catholic church were mass killers too in the same period. Knox only just escaped being executed by catholics himself. It was part of a Europe wide * battle among Christians and it varied from country to country who came out on top. However, both sides were as bad as each other if you look across Europe and the vatican was responsible for a * of a lot more deaths in this struggle than John Knox ever was. People should really look back and think both sides were evil and not treat one side as innocent and the other as killers. If you are going to say fck John Knox then you really should be giving the institution of the Vatican and several popes the same treatment. Can you never see fault in your own side.

 

How is it pro catholic? The only hint at any reference to religion in the song i see is here:

"Though we've had our troubles now and then
Now is the time to make them up again
Sure aren't we all Irish anyhow
Now is the time to step together now"

Seems to be more about unity amongst Irish people.. It means both Protestant Ulster Scots and Irish Catholics are all Irish anyway, all born on the same island. I can't see how this song is pro-anything other than pro-united Ireland.

 

Why don't you have a read at post #110 (about 3 slides up)


It's actually not worse than saying FTP is it now?

* John Knox (one man).

* the Pope (generalised comment over MANY people).

 

You also seem to have no regard for other peoples feelings. Happy as long as you are able to indulge yourself in these venting songs. Songs in football should not refer to peoples religion or founders of churches etc. They should be about football or football history or just a bit of slagging fun. Politics and religion are way too sensitive to indulge in in songs without ill feeling and consequences. The 'old firm' tag is validated when both sides still indulge in songs referring to religious divisions, divisive nationalistic politics etc. That still binds the OF and sets them apart from most other teams (OK the mini huns indulge too). The bottom line is its not the act of consiliatory people with healing of the national division at heart which I am sure is what Brother Walfrid would have wanted. Its indulging in dangerous venting and baiting crossing into sensitive areas like religion or politics. You ask a Don, Hibbe or Arab what they see as the common thread in the OF and they will say its dragging politics and religions and violent nationalism/admiration of paramilitary groups into things, often to get a rise from/hit back at opposition fans. Sane people intuitively know that those things are not the act of a considered, mature, balanced person with some sort of sense of social responsibility. The Old Firm are both divided and united by this dabbling in those dangerous areas and the fact they take opposite sides is neither here nor there. From the outside dabbing in these areas appears to unite us with Rangers. The only way we can escape this is to stop this.

 

Well one of Rangers song is more generalised 'no pope of rome' which refers more to the institution than one of them. I think it would be immaterial if you said fck isl*m or fck moh*d to a muslim. Its equally offensive. If you think its OK and can somehow self-justify slagging off the founder of the main national church and think that is OK but the various anti catholic ones are bad then you need to take the block of wood out your eye before you see the splinters in others.

 

You also seem to have no regards for my eyesight....anychance of putting your posts into paragraphs or something....like looking at a brick wall.

So are you insinuating that I am none of the bolded part?

I understand where you are coming from at points, but I am happy to admit that I am neither unashamed nor embarrased when I sing this song.

The only part of this song which is out of order is when the 'soon ther'll be no protestants at all' is added. I lambast that part, but the rest - NO.

 

This really is splitting hairs all of this and its not really the point but when people say FTP how do you know if they are refering to a particular one, some of them or all of them. Anyway its irrelevant. Saying either of these things is putting ones own wish to vent about history and politics in public ahead of putting other people and their feelings first. IMO the latter is the decent thing to do and the former is just immature and self indulgent given the sensitivities. A Scottish protestant would not need to be extreme or sensitive to find someone completely out of context taking it upon themselves to their founder to fck himself. Why would you want to do that anyway???? Ranting in a football ground about religious figures of your opposite number church. If you dont think that is taking part in the * for tat sectarianism then you really are beyond help.