Should the Easter Lilly be given equal status as the Poppy?

and why the * should celtic fc do this? what difference does it make? why dont we do banners and sing songs at that time? simple i would rather do that. and he did more or less say that too.

 

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Go to 12:55.

 

Im not saying they should do it, thats bogsidebhoys opinion, i would prefer if celtic didnt have any poopy or lily badges on there top and kept all that politics,remembering the dead etc out of football altogether.

 

I'm patiently waiting an extremely cryptic and confusing statement on this from Gonnae Sit Doon.

 

I know full well what his point was, however he asked the question, why do we wear the poppy for brittish soldiers but not the lily for the Irish.

So I answered, maybe because Celtic are a Scottish club.

Unless of course it was a rhetorical question and he wasnt actually looking for an answer

 

And he clearly answered, because we have irish roots founded by an irish man. Anyway like i said I would rather we didnt have either the poppy or the lily, id prefer to keep that stuff out of football.

 

i agree with you there 100%. that why there is amanest day(sorry spelling) and rememberence sunday for. but if we dont put on one of they * poppies then we are the * scum of the * erath throughout * brittain. i cant be titsd with all the * fannies. and for the sake of 90mins of football for the grieif? is it worth it?

 

That was my point. I was in no way denying that Celtic werent scottish.

 

I take that back. poor choice of wording. my apologies for that.

I mostly agree with your perspective yet we differ on the main point. On reflection the cause celebre is reactionary but that shouldnt detract from the fact Remembrance Day and the Easter Commemoration will be staged every year. How we as individuals choose to pay our respects is a private matter. How Celtic choose to mark the occassion is very much in the public domain.
In the interests of equality and parity of esteem I feel Celtic should give equal consideration and stature to both occasions.
Despite the mute points being raised elsewhere concerning Celtic's Irishness/Scottishness the Irish republic's flag is flown above Celtic park as is the union flag so equality of stature is already been given to the issue of symbols in this regard. Why shouldnt the same principle be adopted for Remembrance Day and the Easter Commemoration? Poppy or Lilly, there's no good reason both symbols cant be respected by all. a minute's silence or applause is equally appropriate for both occasions.

 

Answered what? I didnt ask him a question, I suggested an answer for his question and if you read back I have ther exact same views as you

 

i hope he could follow that lol

 

I know what I mean

 

you had me rubbing my temple for a bit lol :icon_mrgreen:

 

what it is is a child like reaction to the poppy being worn throughout the uk.
they get one so we want oneeeeee
nothing more. Nothing less.

 

I thought u were better than that, clearly not. fyi the Easter lilly has been worn as a mark of respect since 1926, the Poppy since 1921. ignorance is bliss Colin...u just stay happy mate

 

In regards to getting it on football strips. tbh, it was pretty clear that's what I was getting at.

 

l doubt very much you'll see a lilly on the hoops but we'll see. there's no reason why there shouldnt be every easter just like the poppy come november. can u imagine the amount of jerseys they'd sell. i can just see lawells eyes light up at that lol
i'm sick fed up of the poppy controversy as the next person. i dont think it should be controversial. but whilst there remains this inequality between the irish/british cultures i think unhealthy tensions will remain.
it doesnt need to be that way. we can celebrate our differences whilst being respectful of eachothers important occassions. this oneupmanship that exists present day doesnt do anyone any good.
mark both occassions with the equal respect they deserve and the controversy will go away once and for all. a minutes applause whatever just as long as its equal in stature.
more importantly it might lead to a better understanding between both cultures and communities which would be beneficial to all. if this issue isnt addressed it will continue to rear its ugly head. parity of esteem is the only answer.

 

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At the very least Celtic, just show some respect.

Posted by Patrick J. Fox
That's all we're asking for. On the National Day for the Easter Commemoration when the flags fly at half mast all over Ireland in respect of the brave men and women whom have given their lives in the cause of freedom from oppression, we the Scots born ethnic Irish diaspora living in Scotland ask Celtic FC/PLC to show some respect.
Anti Irish racism is rife in Scotland which makes it difficult for any visual display of Irishness to escape criticism or worse still, violence. As per the last census one fifth of Scotland's population is ethnically Irish. Over a million Scots are of Irish descent yet we are denied the right to equality and parity of esteem by our fellow Scots and even by our own beloved Celtic FC which is at the very heart of our community.
Every November at the home of the Irish diaspora in Scotland, at Celtic Park, we are asked to stand in silence and respect the memory of all British Servicemen from all conflicts past and present including Ireland. This is a particulary difficult for us to do for obvious reasons relating to the Irish conflict. Nevertheless we abide by the club's wishes and a minute's silence is respected and Lord Earl Haig's British symbol of the Poppy is emblazened on our jerseys. We accept the rationale behind the club's decision.
Celtic FC/PLC have a moral obligation to mark the National Day for the Easter Commemoration of 1916 with the respect it deserves. The issue is not about being in competition with Remembrance Day or causing controversy. The principles at stake are as follows:

1. The sacrifice of our dead fellow Irish countrymen is honoured with the respect it deserves.
2. Parity of esteem and equality for the ethnic Irish diaspora living in Scotland.

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