Shame on the SNP

No desire to offend anyone or their opinion, but I feel it would amount to stubborness to the point of madness to choose not to vote SNP, over a bill concerning the singing of a few songs, especially songs relating to another country's history and to vote Labour because they say they'll let you sing them.
I've been a Celtic fan for 40 years, but the independence of Scotland is surely of more importance than the chance to sing some songs.

 

Selfish * ^^^^^^

 

It's a * bill and never liked it but won't stop me voting SNP or trying to push for independence,hope most feel the same.A choice of breaking away from the union against a bill that could easily be scrapped at any given time,it's a no brainer.

 

Also sprach Zarathustra.

 

It doesn't really amount to stopping people from singing a few songs though, does it? It's the criminalisation of a political opinion; an attack on freedom of expression.

If we live in a country where you can't have and voice views that are contrary to those of the establishment, then independence is worthless.

 

Songs

I agree.

A vote for the SNP would help Scotland's progression towards independence. I am assuming if you sing Republican songs then most likely you support Scottish independence. The quicker we dismantle the Union, the quicker Ireland may see reunification.

I'm tired of hearing songs about the IRA and about rebels at football games, because all it does is incite even more tension in an already sensitive situation. I do appreciate history, but shouldn't we be singing songs about culture and peace while at the game and leave the politics at home? Man up and think of the bigger picture. We could either continue singing rebel songs and alienating others or work hard to help eradicate sectarianism.

By the time my child grows up, I would love to see a Glasgow that doesn't divide itself between green and blue unless its on match day, and that would be for purely sporting reasons only. People can still remember history and we can respect each others views and differences a little more easily. Civil liberties? How much liberty do you think you will achieve if you sing songs that helps fuel sectarianism? For what you sing may sound harmless to you, there's another taking it as the gospel. Both Celtic and Rangers are guilty.

I'm not completely familiar with the bill in question, and I am not saying it is the answer. Maybe it needs some review and amendments.

 

What is sectarian about rebel songs?

 

Songs

Don't ask me, ask a kid who looks upon Rangers or Celtic fans as the enemy because of the society we live in. As I've said, the songs may sound harmless to most of us on this forum, but to some it has a totally different message.

I'm sorry, but I'd rather we sing songs that helps unite the divide rather than singing about what divided us in the first place. At the end of the day, we are at a football game, right?

 

They're not sectarian in any way. They don't pertain to religion. They're nationalist songs, no different to Scottish folk songs about independence.

 

Anyone who would trade their freedom of expression for nominal independence is a * idiot.

 

But but but there Irish and all Irish are terrorists what if the papers don't like us what if somebody stands up and I can't see the game what if I get soar ears over people singing * off * one and all celtic has always been political and always will be if you don't like one of the main parts of the club why like the club at all





LET THE PEOPLE SING THERE STORIES AND THERE SONGS THE MUSIC OF THERE NATIVE LAND

 

Songs

Christ on a bike. :smiley-laughing002:

At the current moment, I have bigger things to worry about than a football bill. Such as this. Scottish independence would allow my family to live together. That's just one example, out of thousands of complaints about infringement of rights, that is much more important than singing certain songs.

 

Get a grip ffs :smiley-laughing002:

For millions of people in Scotland the independence of their country is a far bigger issue than what they can/cannot sing at a football game.

If you would t vote for the SNP because of this particular bill, who would you vote for that has proposed to do anything differently?

 

It's a slippery slope just like Russia has "freedom" but doesn't allow lgbt members to have a voice or Iran having "freedom" but doesn't let women have a voice



Can't believe celtic fans would support censorship tis a funny auld world

 

Jesus.

 

Censorship is censorship

 

Are you actually drawing a comparison between the football bill and the treatment of women in Iran?

Would you support any limit on freedom
of speech at all?

 

Both are censorship are they not?




No absolutely none at all its the most important part of a democracy for people to have freedom to shear there views

 

There's a censorship of unrelated images in Celtic chat, I suppose this forum too compares to the way females are treated in Iran?