Sell Ki

i think hes a good player just a bit of toughenin up in the gym will do him a world of good

 

drama queen,you are deluded bhoyo,why do you digress and speak about brown, we are not talking about brown so i dont know where your coming from
Oh and i can see the big picture mate, you need to open those ganja smoked eyes,you talk about Ki being great in the world cup,Aye so great there is so many agents knocking at lennys door ffs

this boy will be a bit part player for the rest of his celtic career

so go and play "footaball" manager on your xbox or ps3 run along now
after all this game must make you the footballing genious
that you are

 

mate you have no clue the boy has done nothing wrong in big games and for celtic not getting a run in the team what do you expect? oh thats right you seem to know he won't be a good player i forget septic peg and your crystal ball

the reason i said about brown is this he has not played well and came when he was a so called young and up and coming play and had his chance and played gash and then gets the captains arm band and yet people like yourself who must be on crack if you think am on the hash want to get rid of the boy after 6 months

why do you get down to the calton athletic and get off the crack your on cause mate you have no clue, why would we want to sell him after 6 months and he has a good world cup and is still only young..... but hey have an other hit mabe you will be able to see things more clearly......

 

Instead of selling Ki we should be looking to sell the dud in your avatar.

At least Ki can actually complete a pass. He has potential.

 

thats about 96 times you have said he had belter of a world cup,what did he do that was so good? i cant recall anything special

have you not read a few posts above. he will be taken to the cleaners up against the harder teams in the spl, this is why he will keep the bench warm most games

anyway if i am off to Calton which i have never heard of,as you have suggested,want to come with me as i think you could do with some help yourself being from liverpool and all, no offence to scousers,i take it you will know the way

 

Caterpillar and bhoy81 - Put down your handbags and stick to debating the subject at hand.

 

With the proper destructive support behind him, Ki will be able to do his job. He is more than good enough to play for our first 11, and lead our attacking play. Ignore the lightweight frame and problems with tackling, because that isn't his job. Look at his technique, passing and set pieces. How good is he in those things, that will determine his success here. I believe he is very good in these categories.

 

I take your post is aimed at me so I will address it. If I am wrong in that assumption please correct me.

Firstly we are discussing Ki not Scott Brown so I am not going to address that topic on this thread, and allow myself to be party to taking the subject matter off topic. I am quite happy and willing to address the subject of Brown on the appropriate thread with you.

As regards the subject matter of Ki I actually find it quite amazing how one or two or more posters can view the same player or subject and all come up with a diametrically opposing view. And I assure you as the OP, I take all views and opinions on board equally, before I come to a settled will on this issue or any other issue for that matter.

You say Ki can pass. I can pass but that dozen't make me worthy enough to play for Celtic. You need more attributes than that to make it big at Parkhead. You say Ki has potential. I have potential but that dozen't mean to say Ki will ever realise his potential, or indeed we have the precious time to wait for him to realise this potential.Wouldn't you rather have custom made products that are fit for purpose from word go ?

Some posters allude to Ki's performance at the World Cup. On this I think you have to take into account the greater time on the ball that Ki was given on the wider and better pitches and different styles of football that were played in that tournament to be able to give a balanced and objective view of his performance.I think we all saw last season how Ki was easily hustled and harrased out of his ordinary game by mundane SPL players on hard, bumpy and tight Scottish pitches. Ki will not be afforded the same time and space on the ball he was given in the World Cup, so do see the discrepancies between the two types of footballing platforms. Once again see how two different posters can view Ki's performance at the World Cup from the undernoted quotes

OverandOver

Boy81

And incidentally I am not overly concerned how Ki did or didn't do at the World Cup or indeed might do at the Emirates Cup where a similar set of circumstances will prevail. I am only concerned on how he does with us in competitive matches, and I reiterate what I saw of him last year and again against Sporting Braga, I remain to be convinced that Ki has it to be a success with us, and as such I reserve the right to suggest we would be better to sell him now and cut our losses, and use the money to fund a more adaptible and flexible type of player who will be fit for purpose.

 

A utility player won't help here. We will need someone to pass the ball to the forwards, and Ki can do that, along with several other things useful for an offensive midfielder. He can't tackle? Well, Lennon will have to set the team up to minimize that problem.

 

Ki is NOT good enough!

 

And you are basing that opinion on what exactly???

LOL, this thread really is beyond comprehension...

 

I wasn't referring to a utility player. You have picked me up wrong. I meant a player who is fit for purpose.

You ever wonder one of the reasons why Smith has been successful at Rangers ? He buys players than can tackle. Look at his midfield some of them can play a bit but can also tackle and track back. The Davis, Edu's,Thomson's ( gone I know )..

We played with two playmakers like McGeady and Naka in our midfield under Strachan, neither could tackle or track back, and more often than not we got over run in midfield. Lennon I know is at least trying to address this important issue with players of the caliber of Ledley, Juarez and Kayal, unproven I know but all capable of tackling and tracking back.

Ki neither tackles or tracks back.

 

If he doesn't track back, how was he in the box to give away that penalty?

.....lol

 

Ki, McGeady and Nakamura have no business going into dangerous tackles. Their job is to make something happen in attack. The business of other midfielders is to cover for them, in defense. We can avoid awakward defensive situations by having the full backs go forward less.

 

give him time imo, hes 21 he has to adapt, he will be good

 

Any criticism you, and many others have of the boy are aimed at his physical condition.

He's a lightweight but that's easily sorted in the gym. I'd rather have a player who's a lightweight but has actual footballing abilty than have a player who's built like a brick shithouse but is very, very limited technically.

Here at Celtic, we'll dominate possession in just about every domestic match. I don't see why we should be packing the midfield with big spoilers and bruisers against teams like St. Mirren and Kilmarnock.

When I watch Ki I see a player who looks tidy on the ball, composed, can see a pass and play it. Something we badly need. Have you seen our passing? Players like Brown (I know, this thread isn't about Brown but I can compare Ki to him considering their rivals for a starting spot) cannot pass. No creativity whatsoever but at least with Ki in their and with the ball at his feet you can be confident that he'll find a pass if the run is made. The run is rarely made though thanks to how * our forwards are.

Some of you wouldn't be happy if we had Xavi or Iniesta in the middle because the Scottish mentally craves physical brutes instead of technical gems.

 

Doctor Venglos my good man, may I gleam from the above boldenated text that you are in agreement on the assertion that Ki Seung Yong had a good World Cup, but you attribute this to the fact that he was afforded ample time and space to ply his trade which shall not be afforded to him in the SPL?

Being one of the affore mentioned, alludinisating to the fact that Ki had a good world cup I shall engage in debate regarding this matter forthwidth....

Thats the whole point man...he has potential needs time to learn how to do things a bit quicker becuase in the SPL you will not get the time....thats what every young player needs....time to get up to the pace of the game...

He has shown he has talent....he passes well, shows for the ball and does take a good free kick...by the way, being good at set pieces doesnt mean you shoot every one of them, it also means being able to get the ball into dangerous area's at pace where it can be attacked...

His defensive game probably needs some work too....

But you want to say...nah * it...its not worth the effort.....lets just get someone else!!!

Lets just scrap our youth system too while we're at it....because we don't need kids we need players right now!!!

 

Dude...McGeady is a winger

 

Basing it on what I have seen and its my opinion of him, and I stick by that opinion, and further more I will be proven correct. :icon_mrgreen: