Scott Sinclair!

The point is in his three years with us he’s consistenly had high numbers when it comes to goals and assists. That is the only point.

He does post the numbers, he does do the job. Despite him being able to be absolutely infuriating.

 

Being directly involved in 87 goals in 139 games tells a different story.

 

See this is the thing. At present he is still our biggest threat.

 

If he was true finisher, we wouldn't be where we are at the minute. We dominate so many games and look what we have to show for it this season. If you and others are happy with his end product, then fair enough, but personally I think we can do better...

 

tbf he said against 'better opposition', how many of those goals were against decent opposition? There is about 3/4 decent teams in the league. When Sinclair first came in he was never scared to take on a player and had the confidence to shoot from outside the box, now it's do some * shimmy, doesn't work so plays the back and rinse and repeat. Still gets himself into decent positions without the ball which explains his great scoring record, but either he has been coached out of going direct and now rather prefers to keep possession or is confidence is at an all time low.

 

Reminds me of Commons in Lenny’s last season, most games he’d play pretty poor but consistently scored. Once you look back all that mattered was that he scored goals.

Biggest issue with Sinclair for me is that can’t step up in Europe, with his pace and skill he should be a stand out player in Europe.

 

We wouldn’t be where? Top of the league? League cup winners? Still in the Scottish Cup? Still in Europe? What do you mean.

If he hadn’t finished the chances he has, we’d be a lot worse off.

I don’t know why you’re putting the blame solely on him. A winger who’s been in and out the team at times. The numbers he puts up are sensational, despite the chances he’s missed.

 

You can only play the teams in front of you. It’s not Sinclairs fault there aren’t more teams in the league.

Btw what’s your point? He scores against the better teams and the poor teams.

 

You responded to the other guy stating his goal scoring ratio, yet all he said was against better opposition he wouldn't get half as many chances like he does in SPFL which is true. Someone needs to tell him to start being direct again because he still has a lot of pace to use (looked the quickest in Dubai) which would leave defenders in the league on their * but instead it's the boring predictable possession approach that helps slower opposition players pocket him this season (Whittaker/Smith etc..). I just really wish we could get the first season Sinclair back

 

You said decent opposition, 3/4 teams in the league. He scores and assists goals against them. Now you’re saying outside the SPFL, so only Europe? You’ve changed your argument. Look at his stats and the teams he’s scored against.

Yes he’s not in the form he was in before. Yes it’s frustrating. But it’s hilarious that people call for his head on here when he’s our main contributor and has been since he joined.

 

He's as fast as lightening...

 

Ok I've looked he has scored 16 goals in 29 appearances against good opposition domestically (Aberdeen, Huns, Hibs, Hearts) in his time here. That seems like a decent stat until you realise 5 of them were penalties, so 11 goals from open play he has scored against the top teams in Scotland.

140 games played for us, 54 goals (9 of those pens) and 34 assists- that averages a goal every 2.5 games or 3.1 from open play. I'm not calling for his head either but people spending their hard earned money to watch 20 grand a week Sinclair struggle to take on a 34 rb is of course frustrating to watch. Hopefully with the new players coming in it motivates him a bit and to realise that a 19 year old lad with 850 minutes of professional football isn't going to be his only competition.

 

We’ve very few left wingers that have ever played for us that scores as many as he does.

Alan Thompson - 225 games 51 goals
Shaun Maloney - 215 games 52 goals
Aiden McGeady - 252 games 37 goals
Georgios Samaras - 249 games 74 goals (half of those games were up front)

Scott Sinclair - 137 games 52 goals


Yes, if he took all his chances he’s had with us he could probably be sitting double the amount just now, yes he can be frustrating, yes he has a heart of a flee at times but the point is, he consistently delivers and that is a fact that just can’t be argued with.

 

I’m unsure if you’re criticising his scoring record or not by breaking it down like you have? Surely not. Taking the penalties away (some that he’d have won himself), and taking assists away as if they don’t matter is just you trying to twist the numbers to suit your own argument.

He’s a winger. There’s another winger on the other side scoring goals, a striker scoring goals, our midfield scoring goals. He provides his fair share.

 

I think the only fair comparison would be Forrests stats over the same period

 

It's mental..

He's scored untold for us but again the weekend, misses an open goal and penalty yet should've had a legitimate hattrick..

It isn't so much the number's he's doing with us, although he has missed many a sitter and 1 on 1.....it's more his overall play.....

The reluctance to take on his immediate man.
The cop out passes to KT.
The * out of 50/50's.
The hiding in game's.
The amount of big game's particularly he doesn't turn up in now, it's almost a given..

He doesn't scare defences anymore whatsoever. Is weak both mentally and physically in the challenge and is night and day as an outlet compared to Forrest on the other side..

 

And that’s where you’ll not get an argument from me. I’ve been going * mental watching how he plays lately.

It’s really, really irritating me. I just think there’s plenty of ammo to criticise him with, without resorting to making things up.

 

Yep, he's infuriating more often than no..

It says a lot that for a guy with those stats, many of us would be happy to get rid....because the rest of his game is lacking these day's..

 

Funny thing is, it’s just because of us knowing how he played in his first season.

I suspect if we had somebody come in for a couple million and scored and assisted as much as he does, with his exact all round play, we’d be happy.

Thing is, it’s not good enough for him because he is playing within himself.