Scott Allan

It's looking more likely he is seen as an impact player as you say.

Wasted IMO. But they must not see his all round play as indicative of a regular starter.

 

Doesn't look as sharp as you'd expect. When he does get the ball he's an eye for a pass, but his work off the ball isn't all that wonderful. Guess that might come with games, but like Forrest, sometimes it looks as though he expects others to win the ball for him and he doesn't react quickly enough.

 

Feel a bit sorry for allan to be honest. Looks a good player and deserves more game time but rogic has been a revelation this season and johansen cant do no wrong on ronnys part so its been tough for him.

 

One thing I've noticed is in the final third he does seem a bit slow/ looks like he'll be dispossessed.

Wonder what he'd be like playing deeper spraying the ball about.

 

That's not to say that he won't grow into a regular starter with the right coaching, attitude and work ethic.

Time will tell.

 

I think he can be the man to feed Griff

 

Is he your new "pet" now that stokes is away? Just so i can avoid your usual pish by not going into this thread.

 

What's with the hostility? I like players who are clever and have guile. I dont see the problem?

 

It's funny how you rate him so highly having * all playing time but not Rogic :smiley-laughing002:

 

I dont think Tom Rogic is a bad player, in fact I think he is very good technically. I do think his limitations are natural in that he lacks the instincts needed for the game, similar enough to Samaras, making poor choices, inconsistencies etc. From what I have seen I think that Allan has got these instincts and has the vision and technique to pull them off. I have been really impressed with his ability to split defenses and that is an ability that cant be taught. You have to have those instincts and it looks like Allan has them.

 

You started off ages ago saying Rogic was rotten, then grudgingly you've arrived at the notion that he's technically good but doesn't have the 'instincts' for the game (*?). All it needs is for Ronny to drop him & you'll be thinking he's a world beater :smiley-laughing002:

The truth is you were wrong from the start & it confirms you don't really know what you're on about. That's my instinct anyway :smiley-laughing002:

 

It's not really worked out for him. The management must not see something in him during training to merit a start.hopefully a lesson learned and look elsewhere than our leagues for players. Can't see him being on much wages so not to hard a blow to take. If he isn't good enough sell him or loan him for next season. If management see something in him loan him out and hope he comes back better.

 

If you dont know what I mean by instincts for the game, then I cant explain it to you. You'll never get it. My problem with Tom Rogic is not that he is a poor player but rather he is not good enough to be playing in the 10 role ahead of Commons. I still believe this. Deila is stubborn though and he will be playing our best option for that role out of position so it comes down to either Rogic or Allan in the hole. Rogic is poor as often as he is good so there is logic to giving Allan a chance (who I believe will be the better player)

 

Aye don't bother og, the inside of your head is not something I want you to verbalise too readily. Rogic has barrel loads of natural talent & with every passing game he makes you look foolish. Allan looks to have a load of ability as well but isn't it just so that you plump for praising the player not getting the game over the player who is. Predictable.

 

Rogic has been splitting defences open all season, skips past players, finds space so easily and has good passing ability and an eye for a pass. You can tell he understands the game in his style, he has been one of most enjoyable players to watch this season, he is more of a no.25 than Johansen.
Allan I agree has great ability and especially his final ball, think he will do well but Rogic is the better player at the moment and with Christie coming in we've got some selection for CAM. All 3 are different, if only we could mash them into 1 player and we'd have the makings of a world class player in our hands.

 

exactly

 

The irony in you calling someone else stubborn :smiley-laughing002:

 

Look lads all im saying is that I think that Scot Allan has that instant flick of the switch in his head and the pass is made whereas Rogic has the technique but his speed of thought is not as quick. I have been impressed by Rogic but I have been more impressed with Allan from the little I seen of him. I would like to also point out that I didnt want to sign him to begin with.

I even said in another thread that I dont want Rogic to be sold as I think he is a good option if not a first eleven player and I even had to say nothing in the games where he has been quiet because I dont want to be overly critical of a player. I did keep an eye on his thread though and it is often as quiet as he was on the pitch but where's the harm id let Commons take a nap in the corner the odd game and say nothing.

 

If that's your opinion then fair enough. The problem I have as I think most here have with you is that you only want to emphasise the negative at the club. Anything positive, you are rarely seen. What about our new signing? Our win & performance on Friday? When Commins is out the team, you're imploding but when he's in it you just gloss over it etc. Griffiths goal scoring isn't great, it's the 'thank * we've got Griffiths' patter.

 

There is negatives at our club, me telling it like it is, is not going to change this nor will ignoring it. If we were doing better I would have no reason to complain and the best way to shut me up is for us to start getting it right. I am not a man of faith.

Also I am being openly positive about Scott Allan in this very thread. You have also pointed out my positivety regarding Commons and why am I not allowed to say thank * we have Griff?

I dont understand why you have taken exception to this point of view either? If it wasnt for Leigh Griffiths we would be in serious trouble, do you not agree with this or do you not like hearing this? We are far too reliant on him and we really shouldn't be. I dont understand why you take exception to me pointing out worst case scenarios when we are so vulnerable. Disaster is only an injury away. I think you not accepting these realities is the real negative. Positivity is fine but when it becomes false positivity it is a different story.

I care about the club and there is things that are not being done right and I wont stop until we stop acting like a two bob organisation and start acting like * professionals, and this starts by considering risk management factors that we neglect every single season. We need to start doing things properly or we will dear buy it.