Scott Allan

You could be right. I asked my mate afterwards what he had coming through the Accies set up and he seemed to know less about them than the Celtic lads they were playing! :smiley-laughing002:

 

I do work with Accies through my work and a lot of them are Tims. Quite like Accies.

 

Accies, or as I call them, the anti-Motherwell.

 

True, * hate Motherwell :smiley-laughing002:

 

I was speaking to a Hibs director about him before he joined and that's exactly what I was told. Apparently a terrific talent but genuinely hard to take to because of his attitude. No idea if that's something that's changed since he's arrived here though, I would definitely like to see more of him as we lack any incisiveness in the final third.

 

Unless we get a change of manager, these guys just won't play. Going forward he's got the kind of vision for an assist you want to see in the side. In fact it's exactly what was missing against Partick Thistle.

But this is a manager who bottles it and plays the most obvious tactic even though minus Scott Brown we don't have the players to do it.

Scott Allan will of course be wondering why he's signed for Celtic, when he could be playing every week for Hibs. He's also taken a big risk in signing for Celtic when it's well documented he's a Rangers fan.

Add all that to the mix, with Ronny and co patronizing good players. Ohhh you need to work on this, this, this and this. They do that and still don't get a game.

Some might be wondering why they have to.

What we've got at Celtic are a management team brought in to downgrade the side.

Now this is a term banded around a lot, whether in reference to quality, experience or financial deals.

You go back to John Collins the pundit saying on live TV the only thing missing from Celtic were the development guys coming through.

So they sign John Collins before the manager, unofficially. John Kennedy comes in with all this knowledge about the development team.

So these guys were brought in to do that. They will continue to do that to the detriment of the side.

Now that the panic has set in, they're gonna try and buy back the fans, hopefully with some decent signings. Problem is, kids will not fare well in the Champions' League, so Collins idea that not enough young players go into the Celtic first team is part of the problem.

Allan i'd say is fairly experienced, a good pro with some weaknesses defensively. But i'd bet £100 right now he'd make a pass for an assist a lot quicker than Commons.

If the future is to bring young kids into the side and drop good pros Deila will at some point have a lot of people chapping on his door asking away and i don't really see how that benefits anyone playing on the development team.

The development team is for young guys to learn their trade. If Ronny thinks that level gets them ready he's even dafter than i thought. All he'll end up with is an unhappy sqaud, which will be one of the reasons we'll see Stokes out on his ear, to go and play really well for another side.

I honestly hate this state of affairs. #Johansen i watched walking around while Ambrose is looking for a pass. His performance at the weekend was borderline disgraceful.

Yet guys who can actually play football don't get a game.

It needs changing and the board always seem to want us all to think everything is difficult to do. Like sign a decent striker, sign a decent defender.

What we've got at Celtic is a PR campaign to keep everyone paying their money, so Ronny can pick a team who struggle, really struggle to beat a whole host of SPFL teams.

Can't beat a team in Europe.

I'm sorry but it's a shambles created by those only interested in making money off the transfer market, something we are actually really terrible at and part of the reason for that is, guys like GMS, Allan, Stokes who you should easily be able to move on in a season, not getting a chance to shine.

What happens is they get desperate for a game and when they do get a game there are so many changes to other parts of the team it rarely works.

So we've got guys brought in not to go and sign the best players, but to develolp average ones. Young ones with no physicality to them whatsoever.

This is our boards idea as to how to succeed in Europe. Bring through guys from the development team.

It only takes 2 or 3 in the team and you can forget European football. Scott Allan is maybe another one of those kind of signings where we've moved from developing our own players, to developing players other clubs have tried to develop and decided they weren't as good as first hoped.

Park goes in and says, we can work with this kind of player, we can't let him sign for Sevco. Well they should have let him go to Sevco if the manager doesn't know any other system than the one he insists on playing as if we're in a competitive league.

Scott Allan is a playmaker, he can play some through balls that slice defenses open.

Kris Commons maybe could, but he chooses not to.

 

Hold on, we can accuse Deila of many things, but of not using exciting young talent?

Look at some of the younger guys he's bringing into the team more & more as time goes on. I think that there genuinely is a reason why Allan isn't featuring at the moment.

 

Great post but Allan better than Commons?? Not a chance,Allan is a player that wasn't good enough for the English 1st division,kris Commons has played in the championship for years and done well,I think Commons lack of form is down to the manager

 

Do you know what see attitude stuff I don't give a * what player has an attitude or even what type of attitude they have see if they can show the potential they have they can have whatever ego they * want...

I heard McGregor had the same attitude he bad mouthed Deila a good few times when out saying he was full of * about giving youngsters a chance then bringing in gms and Armstrong now look at him ... Back in the team

 

He isn't using young talent that much, let's be honest.

Tierney is the biggest one, fair play Deila has brought him through very well. However other than that...

- McGregor (who isn't young any more) is playing just now because other players have been injured/not performing.

- Aidan Nesbitt got 2 minutes v Raith.

- Joe Thomson got about 15 minutes v Dundee United.

Other than pre-season friendlies, who else has been given a shot?

 

Tierney and who else?

 

He's brought Rogic through, hasn't he? He's still young and up until recently looked as though he may be on the way out when he was sent back to Australia, but he's come in and done a job?

Callum McGregor? He made his debut under Deila and has since signed a five year deal, hasn't he?

He's also signed the likes of Armstrong, Ciftci, Allan, Christie & Jozo, all of whom are 23 years old or younger.

We've also seen a few of the younger guys such as Nesbitt and Thomson integrate with the first team squad a bit as well this season, haven't we?

My point is that I doubt he'd leave Allan out just for a laugh. There's more than likely a reason behind it, and it's not down to a lack of talent if we're to believe what those who've worked with him previously say.

 

So Scott Allen is not on of his pets then?

 

Anyone got any actual figures behind the idea that deila is bringing through an increasing number of young players? Would be interesting to see how the average age of our starting 11 has changed over the last 5 years.

 

Can you blame him though?

I remember when he got the gig and everyone was excited because they thought he was going to be using loads of youth and I posted that there was no chance of that happening.

Sooner or later he would realise that the expectations of the support wasn't conducive to playing youngsters.

And so it came to pass.

 

Give it * rest.

He doesn't have pets. He has dropped everyone at one time or another.

Honest to *, you waffle on a lot of *.

 

He does have his wee pets, or wee favourites or whatever. Johanson, Armstrong, Rogic. Everyone knows it. His wee pets get games over more deserving players. It's just how it is. If you're uncomfortable hearing inconvenient truths CQN run regular puff pieces that may be more to your liking.

 

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He has dropped everyone of them at one time or another.

 

Rogic, I'll give you that.

He did introduce McGregor to the team but giving him a five year contract was insane. He's an average player who should be nowhere near our first eleven.

Signing people under the age of 23 is nothing new. And out of those Ciftci and Armstrong have been poor. Allan hasn't had a real chance. Jozo is yet to convince. Christie is injured so obviously can't judge (mind you I'm excited about him).

They've integrated with the team aye but Nesbitt has been scoring at will all season for the development team yet all he's had is 2 minutes in the cup. He can't even get on the bench.

The whole thing was he was wanting to give youth a chance and other than Tierney, he hasn't done it.