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Scott Allan

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by Officer Doofy, May 28, 2015.

Discuss Scott Allan in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Zander

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    Why did Armstrong just stop and not make a dart into the box?
     
  2. ILoveTheCeltic

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    Im not bothered at all by the mistake, they things just happen but for me it 100% Allan and no-one else at fault, he made a poor decision, he didnt control the ball well enough and he got robbed of it.

    If Izaguirre, Armstrong, GMS, McGregor, Ambrose, Forrest, Stokes etc done it they'd have got pelters.

    I think he's had a good start other than that though for us, he's looked good and deserves a start. He's played better than GMS or Ciftci this season despite only playing about 90 minutes of football over 4/5 different games.
     
  3. McChiellini..

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    Exactly. He's not had a sniff bar a short cameo at Tannadice. Been injured and had no other match sharpness, nevermind the drastic uppon of standard, as well as the whole saga surrounding his transfer. Comes on and makes an obvious impact before the mistake, yet let's slate him and pretend he looks *..
     
  4. Liam Scales

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    Aye, that's a bit odd. Was tons of room.
     
  5. McChiellini..

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    Because by that time he was completely hiding and passing the buck. We don't like to admit that about our own player's but it was true..
     
  6. ILoveTheCeltic

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    He probably noticed how Allan was waiting to recieve the ball. If Allan had made movement towards him he's have probably reacted but when he passed the ball Allan waited on the pass instead, he also stood in a stance that for sure meant he was going to touch it with the inside of his right foot, then flick it into the middle with the outside of his right foot and try to hit a shot, you can tell that as soon as Armstrong passes the ball.
     
  7. Zander

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    As soon as the ball left his foot, he should have made a sprint into the box. Acres of space.

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  8. Dáibhí

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    Obviously I don't know what the team have drilled in training, but I figure that Armstrong is making himself available for the return pass from Allan?

    I've seen plenty of games where a corner taker hits a pass like that, moves away from the flag and gets a return pass that he can hit into the middle from around six or seven yards from the byline.
     
  9. ILoveTheCeltic

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    The split second he passes the ball though, Allan is 100% set to touch, touch and then shoot, Allan is already set for that before the ball is even half way to him.

    He gave Armstrong no signs that he was going to come towards him or give him it back as soon as it was passed.
     
  10. Zander

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    Aye you're right, but with that space, you'd think he'd see that a dart into the box could have caused them all sorts of problems. Players need to use their initiative.
     
  11. Zander

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    Doesn't matter, give him the option at very least. Would have been such a dangerous position.
     
  12. ILoveTheCeltic

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    He probably would have if he got the interaction from Allan but as I said the split second he's made the pass Allan has set himself up to take it and have a shot so Armstrong obviously notices that right away.

    Had when the pass was made Allan made a step towards the ball, Armstrong would have knows he was coming wider and something could be on.
     
  13. Liam Scales

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    I don't think they'd drill them to get everybody in the box then take it short.
     
  14. Dáibhí

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    Well, everyone wasn't in the box, were they?

    Seriously mate, you're telling me that you've never seen any instances where a team play a short corner for the receiver of the ball to play it back to the kicker who then has a better angle to hit an inswinger into the box?

    Or where a corner is played short to someone in Allan's position for him to turn (as you see him doing) onto his right foot and put the ball into the box or even try a shot?

    He went to sleep, misjudging the guy behind him and he got caught.

    * error that cost us a goal, and anyone blaming the corner kick taker is * mental.
     
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    It might be, but I think it would be foolish to judge that on less than 90mins in a Celtic strip.

    I don't think anyone thinks he is a world beater by any stretch. I'll be honest, I only wanted us to sign him for the wind up value. I do think he offers something different though. We are badly lacking a creative player who can pick a pass, and he could be the answer. Not saying he will be, but anyone watching him can see he has very good passing ability.
     
  16. Liam Scales

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    I have seen it, not when there's only one player back though. That's extremely unusual.


    I've never said he didn't get caught or he never went to sleep. I'm saying it's forgiveable. He needs to ensure it doesn't happen again.

    Do you think he made an impact on the game when he came on? That the Griffiths chance should have been a game changer? That the the Charlie Mulgrew header should have made a difference or him breaking away for Armstrong to set up Griffiths should have been punished? He made a major impact attacking for us.

    For a guy that's hardly kicked a ball this season and never played at that level, do you not think that should be commended despite the mistake? This ones a freebie. He just needs to make sure it doesn't happen again.
     
  17. Zander

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    If Armstrong makes that run, one of the 2 Ajax players around Allan would have went with him, and if not, the first time ball I'd there for Allan to play. So either Allan has more space or Armstrong is on in a dangerous position. It was without doubt the right thing to do.

    I don't absolve Allan from blame btw. Just think Armstrong was daft.
     
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    Because he's totally devoid of confidence and, well, he's just not very good at football.
     
  19. Slaw

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    Well said yeah
     
  20. Paul67 Administrator Administrator

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    Allan made the mistake of not realising who was around him, allowing the Ajax player to nip the ball away from him.

    That was on the edge of the Ajax box though, it's not like he gave the ball away 30 yards from our goal.

    A mistake, but one that we had the length of the pitch to correct, and didn't.