Save Wee Gordon Strachan!

I have caught this debate a little too late. For what it's worth I believe that Riorden not making the team is down to football ability and nothing else.

 

Well as a fan with currently with very limited internet access I find it hard that I read more stuff about Celtic than others with more access.

I stated this before in this thread but it seems I have to parrot everything for one or two people for reasons I dont know. I read it on BBC Sport and the Leicester chairman stated that Riordans agent contacted him on the players behalf looking for them to bid, they QUOTED him. Since nobody was questioned the quotes, I deem the quote to be accurate and what was said to have happened because its a likely course of action by a player "that doesnt want to go through what he did last season". I paraphrased an interview with Riordan which was also on the BBC.
So what way are you going to try and defend Riordan now

 

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/6942124.stm

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/6920207.stm

 

Yep, those two articles, thanks very much. I find it hard to get up older articles on the beeb website, dunno why though.

Just read the quotes from the Riordan's Agent, Leicester's Chairman, and the player himself. I'm saying no more on the matter.

 

I can't open either article. But I don't need to. If Riordan wanted tp leave Celtic because he felt he was not in with a shout of even a semi-regular place on the pitch then who can blame him if he thought about going elsewhere.

The boy has talent he wants to put it to use.

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Yet another example of the hypocrisy of fans. If a player stays to pick up his wages and not play - he is a leech. If a player wants away so as to regularly play - he has a bad attitude.

 

I think the problem with Derek is that his attitude is wrong and that would be a handicap for him irrespective of the club he is at. The challenge for WGS is to try and change him, if he cant then Celts should move him on and let someone else have the problem but Gordon is paid to deal with this sort of thing and it is relatively early days

 

Said the exact same thing in the Balde thread.

 

How can you come to that conclusion, all the lad has done is come to Celtic Football Club, and in genral play well when he gets limited apperances ?

How you can say his sttitude from that is wrong i dont know.

 

That's the point i have been trying to make through out the thread. Accusing the guy of having a bad attitude because of some lousy press articles is ludicrous.

 

For starters, lets clear up the solskjaer and riordan thing. Dempsey was rite to an extent when he mentioned both. Solskjaer agent was not touting him to other clubs ( for ref use the articles already mentioned above ). Riordans was. The agent works for the player, so if the player wants to stay and has no intention in leaving, then he can come out and state this so that the fans know the agent worked behind his back without his knowledge.

Now, if you are trying to make out that you are a Celtic fan, take the time to write on a forum, but havent noticed the repeated stories about Riordan being touted to other clubs, then u r one sheltered green and white clad man living off the official celtic website.

Riordan should be bidding his time.

Its clear there are 2 main camps here. The Riordan Raters and those who see teh guy for what he is...... A guy who plays good/ok upfront, can hit a good pass and good shot, not the fastest and has one of the worst stamina levels I have ever seen in a Celtic player.

When he has played, can u pik out a game that he was really outstanding? His best game has arguably been against Livingston, 1st Div team. Not saying this is his standard, but there are no other real stand out moments. Fait enuf he playd well against St Mirren, but so did Hartley, r we all now goin to shout 4 Hartley to get a game every week?

As far as the Riordan or McGeady issue goes, there is no real contest. Riordan is not a left winger. He is a central player. He has no pace, he has very little trickery and he just cant be arsed doing the hard work to pass to sum 1 else to score (The last point is IMO). McGeady is not the finished article, he will get there. In every team that has a player of his like they are afforded the luxury of not having to track back or that if they loose the ball then sum 1 else will win it. Unfortunatley we are at the stage where we can not really afford him this luxury so we need him 2 b defensive minded and when he looses the ball 'fans' at CP get on his back. If he was not in our team then every fan would be looking for sum 1 that can do wot he does! Hammill that was at Dunfermline last year was no better than McGeady but fans were receptive about the idea of him coming to CP all because he looked * in another team! Lay off McGeady is the cry!

As for the comment about playing left footers on the rite and vice versa.... Wot simple planet of football do u live on. It gives us options. In case u hadnt noticed, we have scored numerous goals playing McGeady on the left and him cutting inside. It keeps the defender guessing wether he will beat him on the outside and cross with the supposed weaker foot or cut inside and shoot on the supposed stronger foot. If you cant see that u need to open ur eyes Martin.

 

Yes i agree, some people believe the press but forget they are the same people who constantly get tore into GS

 

my wife say she has not to see any man thats that ugliest/uglier of your manager Stachan. But then say this, He is winning the championships so everyone must say good to him.

 

Gordo's not that bad, theres definately alot worse

 

The master tactician speaketh ! It can leave is too narrow and predictable. Using the width of the pitch, getting to the byeline etc are proven ways of opening up opponents.

Next time we have a big game watch McGeady and post a percentage of how much he loses the ball and how much we retain possession once he gets it - I know which figure will be higher. McGeady CONSTANTLY gives the ball away.

 

If he wants to go, slap in a transfer request instead of the sneaky tactics that have been used by him and his agent. I had no qualms about Marshall wanting to play and his comments to the press but he didnt have his agent go behind the clubs back. He was straight up, Riordan hasnt done that. I accuse him of bad attitude not because of the articles in the press but by his actions during pre season.

And you really wanted to view the articles you know you only have to copy and paste the links into your web browser.

 

I thought you said the articles quoted Riordan and his agent, so how is that 'sneaky' ?

I did try to cut and paste, they didn't work. They may work now but I don't need to read them. Riordan is a good player, if he wants to play regular football by going elsewhere who can blame him. No one with a brain would take issue with that.

Sorry Dempsey but yet again you presume to know what is going on behind the scenes when your track record is not the greatest. You have been wrong about Gravesen and Naka in the past with your presumptions of what is going on behind the scenes (things you cannot possibly know). And now you are presuming to read Riordan's mind.

BTW your wee ginger hero has allegedly a track record of being sneaky.

Also Dempsey while you are on - I thought the rules banned * on the site. You are an administrator so please deal with the blatant breach of the site rules.

 

Marty, marty, marty. Do u not watch Celtic that often. McGeady does drift inside on occassion, but if u look and see McGeady normally will stay wide. To say that he constantly gives the ball away shows that you dont really watch Celtic and pay attention. You are too busy sitting putting pins in ur Gordon Strachan Doll while sitting wearing ur Riordan mask while bowing to a man made statue of him.

Riordan is a central player. If he plays out on the left wing, we are far to narrow. Give the boy a chance in the middle up front, not on the wing. McGeady gives us something that we miss badly when he is not playing. He can do one trick or cut inside that opens up the game. He can play very poorly, but still do that one trick or make one pass that a very limited no of players can do in out team. For that fact he should be the Left Wing not Riordan.

And can u please explain y I would like to sit and take stats of every time McGeady gets and loses the ball or makes a pass. I would miss the game. Mayb sum1 like u takes enjoyment from * comments like that, most dont. Tell u wot, u do it and then post it and we can discuss it.

 

Wot is GS track in being sneaky? Wot is ur alleged information and this source McFly?

 

Because you are saying that he doesn'y give the ball away and I am saying that he does ? Pretty * obvious reallyMcGeady constantly gives the ball away. You haven't noticed this ?

 

Because you are saying he doesn't give the ball away and I am saying he does ? Is that not an obvious way to look at the matter ?
McGeady constantly gives the ball away. You haven't noticed this ?