Samaras contract talks [Threads Merged]

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I've been saying that Samaras is * abysmal for over a year now. One or two reasonable performances against Rangers are not going to change my mind.

I'd say it's the people who think Samaras is a good player because he scored 2 at Ibrox that are the inconsistent, and easily fooled, fans.

 

Spot on, I would go back to when he actually signed. I cant recall him stringing two consistent games together. He * does my head in on the park. He has all the skill and ability in the world but hasnt a clue what to do. Decision making is usually wrong. More often than not takes too many touches. Regularly spins in a circle and heads towards our goal thus taking the pressure of the opposition.

And we need to get rid of this * that he works hard. He doesnt, he is lazy. And as I said, I am concerned that we could be having a great partnership going with Stokes and Hooper but for him.

Not gonna argue with Lennons tactics so but hope he can get more out of this guy than we have had so far. Did little tonight.

 

There is no doubt the guy has ability but the season lasts 38 games and he turns up in maybe 4-5 ganes a season ,to inconsiscent for my liking .

 

Samaras has never struck up any sort of partnership with ANY of the strikers he's played with at Celtic. Skippy detested playing with Samaras and I can bet you any money you like that Gary Hooper would much rather have Anthony Stokes beside him than Samaras.

He's way too much of an individual and he's way too inconsistent. He is the sort of footballer I detest because he does have some skill about him but he just doesn't deliver often enough.

I have more respect for players that are just * - at least they have an excuse for doing * all.

 

Personally I like him. Think he's an easy target, much like Ki is becoming. People have said his high work rate is a myth but I really don't think it is, as it seems to be remembered if he walks for a few seconds (as most strikers do) but forgotten when he charges the ball down constantly. Much higher work rate than Stokes that's for sure. I'm not putting Stokes down either I like him but with all the crosses coming in it is nice to have a player that may get his head to it. I think with a settled run in the team, as he is starting to get, the goals will come. Also the team has not being playing half as well in the last few games so it's been unfair on Samaras really not getting half as many chances as Hooper and Stokes were lucky enough to get earlier in the year.

 

I am just waiting on this playing Sammy regularly to come back and bite us.

People forget that he only started against the Huns because Neil didnt have Hooper in the side and felt a more defensive line up might have some success. Sammy hadnt scored a goal in the league up till then!!

Wonder how many "fans" were calling for him to be given a new contract and a place in the side before our top scorer before then?? Talk about fickle.

In all honesty, the huns games aside, he has done remarkably poorly. However Neil likes him and I like Neil , so hopefully we will get more out of him between now and the rest of the season.

 

2 league goals this season. 1 penalty and 1 goalkeeping blunder by McGregor.

Aye he's quality.

 

There is a reason he is an easy target. He is an imposter up front most of the time. Walks for a few seconds!! *!!! I have no place for that in our game. Unless he is Henrik Larsson, I am not gonna accept a player who will not work for the jersey and the fans that pay his wages. In a few seconds an opponent can have sprinted 40yards up the park. And believe me , it happens. A lot. The best strikers in the game are also the hardest working ones.

Not gonna argue on the work rate thread with Stokes, but Stokes has hit 12 goals for us this season, and had / has a first rate partnership with Hooper.

I dont want him to have a settled run, because he wont score, he is too inconsistent. The reasons he didnt get that many chances earlier in the season was because he wasnt good enough. He is now reverting to type.

Hopefully though he will have a great game on sunday.

 

Hes showed me nothing on the pitch to get a new contract never mind open talks. Celtic really need to make a few bob out of him and get in another player, get samaras tae :bbpd:

 

He's a cheap option as a striker and can show up in big games. Sure, we could send him away, and for the 1.2M we paid for him get another Daryl Murphy or Morten Rasmussen. I'd rather have an inconsistent Sammy than a consistently bad bench player.

 

great post. have to say i'm in this camp and have been for a while.

as for people saying sell him...if he doesn't sign he'll walk for a free at the end of the season and if he does sign he won't be going anywhere in the next window.

to make him one of the most highest paid 'stars' at the club is a joke.

it's like this a lot by some fans on here. very short sighted. a player has a couple of bad games and they're made a scapegoat or if they have two or three good games and they become Ghod.

either way i think we need another striker to compete next season on all fronts with Hooper, Stokes and what seems to be Samaras.

 

Thats a valid point, he certainly has contributed much more than either Ras or Murph. But my concern is he is getting too many starts when we should be looking at building the partnership between Hooper and Stokes, which has been, over the season, the most productive.

I would also like to think that Lenny would have lined up another striker for the summer. Resigning Sammy would suggest that this may not happen now, as we still have Ras, (Who nobody seems to want) and Murphy who we would we struggle to give away.

 

do you guys literally dig urselves into an underground hole and wait for chances to have ur dig at Sammy?

He was better than quite a few in the second half today in game where Kayal, izzy, Commons, and arguably Ki had sub par performances by their standards.

 

He's bad against the bunker, he's brilliant at playing the counter. He shouldn't start against teams like Inverness.

 

I'm loving this actually, bashing sammy to an extent i agree with because he was fan dandying about last night and * the * out of me, but to say Kemo that Hooper played well and came deep and held the ball up... what game were you watching hooper was terrible he was awful, any time he came deep we lost the ball his touch was like skippys, looked completely lost on that pitch.

While this will anger the people who have their favourites hooper was easily the worst player on the pitch last night, contributed nothing, yes even loovens comes in ahead of him, at least loovens apart from the pen gave something to the team and won every ball in the air and made some crunching tackles. Hooper while maybe not 100% was shirking out of tackles which if Ki did that we would have 10 threads on "Ki is a shitebag", Ki is a liability, Sell Ki.

People need to stop giving players exceptions when they have bad games, i agree sammy didn't play well but to say Hooper did is laughable.

 

Samaras played half decent last night had some really got touches of the ball in a game were we weren't really putting a sure foot on the ball.

Games like last night aren't built for Samaras he is built for the big games. We need speed of thought and decisive action when playing teams like Caley Thistle.

Something Samaras does not give us, he gives us a got out ball and possesion up front. Which is crucial in massive games.

 

* sake, talk about rose tinted glasses "something he gives us in big games" Eh... 2 games against the huns. Other than that he hasnt kicked a ball all season. So what other big games does he do it in. He was poor last nigh simple as.

As for Hooper having a poor game? Well, I reckon the guy has earned it. Unlike Sammy who is as so inconsistent as to be totally unpredictable. Hooper has been brilliant for us, Sammy, remember, hadnt scored a goal all season until the Derby game on the 2nd.

This isnt "slaggin" these are facts. He has a poor strike ration, he is incapable of linking up and I genuinely feel his presence is frustrating for Hooper. At no point last night did Sammy even look like he was going to pass to Hooper or try and pick him out. The work rate myth, is just that. I dont know what game people are on about, he is bone idle. Occasionally he will make a late challenge or close down. But it is rare as hens teeth.

A striker is judged on their goals and he is up there with Murphy in my eyes. Stokes is our top scorer and a great partner for Hooper. They should be the starting pair.

Sammy doesnt give us an out ball. He will pick the ball up and run for sure, but then given the ball back to the opposition isnt good enough.

Very frustrating player.

Would all the fans sticking up for him have been happy for him to have been given a contract before 2nd Jan when he hadnt scored for us all season? And also now the fact he has been given a run how many goals has he scored??

 

I don't doubt he is a very frustrating player but he has done it in many big games for us. 2 against Villareal, Dyamo Moscow, almost every game he has played against the Huns.

He isn't an out an out goalscorer but he goes through his patches of games. He needs space in behind a defence to play as effectivaly as he can; something we rarely get against the provincial teams but something we have plenty of in Europe and against the Huns.

He is big, quite strong, a very strong runner on the ball and fast. He works the whole defence and drags them in and out of position. He is perfectly suited to playing upfront by himself.

I would have Stokes before him most of the time against the smaller opposition but against the big teams I would have Samaras up front by himself probably before even Hooper (if he was by himself)

He is very lacking in some parts of his play, he needs to be more decisive when he hasn't got the space. Learn to play 1, 2's at pace that breaks in behind a packed defence.

Lennon will work on this, the thing I've noticed the most when he has came in is that Samaras now stays more central.

He is a good option to have and that is why he deserves a contract.

 

I am seriously hoping that Neil has signed him in order that we can sell him on for a fee as he doesnt contribute enough to merit a start ahead of our two top scorers.

The european goals were some time ago. The big games against the huns were in fact the first one when he scored two goals, he done okay in the other two.

Are you his agent?? You make him sound like one of the Brazilian World Cup squad from 1970!! (only kidding mate!!)

Seriously though, he can only play up front himself because he has no concept of linking play up. I dont think Neil will be able to improve that aspect of his game now he is 26.