Russell Brand

I honestly do not believe the age of consent should be 16, it makes it really easy for people to target people who are essentially children.

I believe in a plus 2 rule. It's legal for an 18 or 17 year old to have * with a 16 year old but not a 19 year old, and a 20 year old can't have * with a 17 year old.

 

Hang on according to this:

It is a well-established legal principle under the laws of England and Wales that victims of rape, and another sexual offences under the Sexual Offences Act (Amendment) 1992, are entitled to lifelong anonymity during investigations and any subsequent prosecution.

https://www.claims.co.uk/knowledge-base/court-proceedings/anonymity-in-rape-cases

 

No, but it can help other women to come forward, know they weren't alone, it wasn't their fault it was him.

 

yes they are entitled but there are ways of leaking who has said or done what, using the media.

 

I’m no fan of Russel Brand….

… but these ‘media’ investigations into people just don’t sit right with me. If wrong has been done then those victims should take their concerns directly to the police.. not sit silent until coerced by media looking for sensationalism.

The fact that Channel 4 - who employed the guy for years - are one of the co-investigators smacks of self-preservation rather than genuine concern.

 

Yeah 16 is pedo territory IMO..

 

Rape is a completely grey area unless it's a straightforward 'no' or 'get off me' etc. I'm not saying that men are angels and that the vast majority of real rape doesn't get reported though.

I'm not painting a picture that falsely accused end up in jail all the time. I'm just saying it's easy to say someone raped me when they didn't. A girl at school accused a mate of mine when he was in a completely different country to her.

I'm not buying that they were embarrassed or face abuse or worried about being called liars...so they went on national TV instead. That doesn't add up at all. These women won't be anonymous for long with rumours spreading about who they are. Look at the guy Philip Schofield groomed.

Not gaslighting the victims. I'm just asking questions. Ones that people who have already made their mind up don't like because they've already made up their minds and nothing will change it.

 

Look how often people who are granted anonymity are named on social media. Everyone wants to know and everyone goes digging.

There has also been examples of people moved to other parts of the country with new identities and people still break their anonymity.

 

Aye it's no right. A 30 year old shouldn't be allowed to go for a 16 year old schoolgirl..

That is the problem if it was to be lifted, whereby someone could be on a register and only be a couple of years difference in age..

 

Playing devils advocate here, but isn't that happening right now to Brand?

 

Aye, I agree. 16 year olds are still children.

Hard to bring in some legislation for it though. 16 year olds will be having *, can't tell them who with though.

 

He's not been convicted.

When woman find it so hard to come forward I think there has to be ways to assist. If they feel more comfortable to collectively come forward together then that's their choice. I think this will set the ball rolling and we will hear of more offences and victims.

 

Rape is not a grey area. It's sad that so many men still don't understand the meaning of consent.

They didn't go on national television. Their identities were hidden and their words were spoken by actors. Having collective power to have your voice heard does make sense. Other cases have come out the same way.

I agree these women probably won't be anonymous for long. Too many people on the internet will be desperately sleuthing to find out who they are and start throwing mud at them.

 

Sorry I don't buy that at all. These allegations will end up hugely damaging for Brand, and I'd imagine he will want to clear his name now that he has been named. His accusers will not be able to walk this back and leave it at that. It will go to Court.

 

This is why victims need to be kept anonymous, but also why the accused also needs to be anonymous. Is it fair for the guy you've replied toos friend to be accused of rape at a time it was impossible by not being in the country, name splashed everywhere, life ruined. No not fair.
Russel brand is most likely a dirty we rapy * and hopefully will hang... but what if he's not? What if this is a collusion of * against him because of some alterier motive? Again, it doesn't matter the damage is done. Imo every person accused until guilty should be afforded the same anonymity the accusers get just to save situation like that guys mate. I mean look at me. Do I know if he's actually guilty? No but here I am wanting him hung. Fair? Probably not until all evidence is heard.

 

I said 'Rape is a grey area if it isn't a straightforward 'no' or 'get off me' etc'.

Educate me.

All last night was trial by TV and nothing more.

 

Whether he’s convicted of any crimes or not, it’s blatantly obvious that his treatment of women in the past has been appalling.
The show last night exposed this and I’ve no issue with it.

 

Wouldn't even say the show exposed that (apart from the allegations).

His stand up material was literally based around his * life. It was not a hidden secret that he wasn't a nice man towards women.

 

The guy has always been a sleaze ball, hopefully he goes down for a long time.