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Racist anti-muslim protesters mistake black person for muslim in new york

Discussion in 'TalkCeltic Pub' started by emmetf, Aug 24, 2010.

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  1. emmetf

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    source please
     
  2. BigWilly.

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    As I have said before I have no problem with a muslim cultural center, but they are purposely building near ground zero for a reason that isnt being divulged, with money coming from unknown sources
     
  3. emmetf

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    SOURCE PLEASE
     
  4. Diegan

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    There's no single "guy" who's behind this. It's the Cordova Initiative and the American whatever whatever for the Advancement of Muslims or some organization like that. Both are well-established organizations who invested in the SoHo Properties acquisition of the building. None of those groups are backed by only one person.

    No you've said you have a problem with the location as well. If you are just sketched out by the financials then that's a point of view that I completely understand but still disagree with.
     
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    if you can prove all of this then i'll listen to your point. until you provide evidence you are nothing more than another right wing nutjob that needs to watch less Fox News. its amazing to me that the "tea party" in america talks all the time about defending the constitution, yet when the constitution conflicts with their racist, xenophobic beliefs, they choose to ignore it. this is another in a line of actions that make me embarrassed of my fellow americans. i pray that we in america see the error in our ways and learn to become the great nation we once were.

    nobody should be denied access to anything because of their religion without proof of any ill intent. you know who does things like this? HUNS!
     
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    there are 4 churchs within the same radius as this proposed mosque and a synagogue. the people protesting this are too thick to realize that all muslims are not terrorists. the people protesting this don't like and look down upon those who are not like them. the people protesting this look at stopping the building of this mosque as a blow back at the terrorists who were seeking a way to change the american way of life. what they don't realize is that not honoring freedom of religion is changing the american way of life and therefore they are letting the terrorist win. how about fighting terror with freedom. the bible says turn the other cheek, not judge others based on hearsay and false truths
     
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    If you think the past is not relevant to religion I'm forced to say you have a pretty fundamental misunderstanding of what religion's all about. :56:

    You must find yourself completely bamboozled at why America invades Islamic countries, and yet befriends the equally-intolerant rogue state of Israel.

    Understanding the past is the only way to make sense of the idiocy and barbarism of the present: I recommend it to you.
     
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    Of course history is relevant to religions in the modern day.

    But would you like to explain to me what the situation of Spain hundreds of years ago has to do with a mosque being built in New York City anno 2010?
     
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    You can't simultaneously acknowledge a person's right to freedom of religion and demand that the government suppress and deny them that right.
     
  11. BigWilly.

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    CBS 2 NY news
     
  12. BigWilly.

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    Soho Properties is owned by Sharif El-Gamal a man who has refused to say where the money that payed 5 million in cash for the building near ground zero but also a $50 million and for all intesive purposes he is the one man behind this driving it forward.

    I have said before my main problem with the mosque is that they are saying that is Has to be at ground zero and they are refusing to compromise despite that fact that the Vast Majority of the country and New York city do not want it there, I have said that I recognize and support their right to build it their but when they refuse to even consider moving it despite all the contreversy that just raises alarm bells. Added on the fact they they refuse to say where the funding is coming from.
     
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    Those churches you are talking about are older than the country itself, George Washington and John Adams went there when they cam to New York
     
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    Its funny that you call me a right wing nutjob and question my intelligence then you tell me to be open to other views, you obviously havent read any of my posts are you might have seen how off the mark you are, pick up any newspaper and you will see articles askign where they money is coming from





    GROUND ZERO MOSQUE: WHO’S PAYING?

    Posted by Jan on May 26, 2010
    The imam behind a proposed mosque and Islamic community center near Ground Zero will turn to Arab and Muslim nations around the world to help finance the estimated $100 million project, he has told a London-based Arabic newspaper.
    Plans for the project, a proposed 13-story building at 45 Park Place, has generated enormous controversy among some 9/11 families who say it’s too close to Ground Zero..Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf has insisted the project he’s spearheading, is meant to build bridges between Muslims and other religions, but so far he has not been able to cite any specific sources of funding.
    But in an interview with Asharq Al-Awsat, Rauf told the newspaper that funding would come from Muslims in the United States and from overseas.
    “Imam Abdul Rauf . . . told Asharq Al-Awsat that the Islamic center will be financed through contributions from Muslims in the US, as well as by donations from Arab and Islamic countries,” the newspaper reported. Rauf did not return a call for comment.
    In interviews with US media, Rauf has insisted funds would be raised here.
    “We hope to raise it from a combination of gifts from the local Muslim community and perhaps from some combination of bonds or something like that,” Rauf told WABC Radio’s Aaron Klein last week.
    Foreign funding raises red flags for Debra Burlingame, a member of 9/11 Families for a Safe & Strong America, which is organizing to block the project that she says is really aimed at converting people to Islam. “The money is very important,” said Burlingame, whose brother was a pilot aboard the hijacked jetliner that struck the Pentagon. “They can’t do what they do — I’m talking about Islamists — without the money coming from somewhere.”
    Community Board 1 will hear a presentation on the mosque, called Cordoba House, at its monthly meeting set for 6 p.m. tonight at 80 Greenwich St.
     
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    the money is prolly coming from a billionaire or the like..

    oh them naaaaawty muslimmmmssssssssssssssssssssssss how dare they get money to build a cultural centre bara ba ba ba ba ba ba ba

    :56::56:
     
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    this is the third time ive asked you

    PLEASE POST A SOURCE, OF WHERE HIS FRIENDS DENOUNCE HIM AS UNTRUSTWORTHY
     
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    Local news. Awesome.

    SoHo properties bought the place in a deal that was financed by Kingdom Holding Co. and the Cordoba Initiative. Also, SoHo properties itself is not one man but 3 or 4 men, one of whom is related to the very rich royal family of Jordan. And it doesn't raise alarm bells with me, they're not being provocative they are remaining steadfast in their belief that the government has no business telling them where to worship. If they crumbled to the demands of the mindless hordes then they would instantly lose credibility in their own communities. These guys don't operate in a vacuum, they have to save face... to back down when they are morally right in this case would be morally wrong to do. I commend them for refusing to change location.
     
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    Liberty is the Right to do what you want while everyone else objects. If you're not free to go against the mob, you're not free at all.
     
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    Exactly. The notion that they are bad because they aren't changing their plan is ridiculous. If they were white Christians in some other country in a similar circumstance most of my fellow countrymen would be telling them to stand their ground about these basic human rights. It truly makes my stomach turn. Just today a cab driver in NYC had his throat slashed after some 21 year old kid from one of the plusher areas of Brooklyn asked him if he was Muslim. Ridiculous.
     
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    is it really that baD IN AMERIKA?

    most people are so stupid they don't know that before 9/11 there was no hate towards muslims.

    beggars belief how dumb some people really are attributing all terrorism to islam:56: