Pro-Rebel song singing/Anti-Rebel song singing

I sincerly hope the reason there is a 60/40 towards acceptable is because the question is too ambiguous. (More likely that most just dont go on this forum)
There is absolutely NO WAY there is a majority of celtic fans supporting songs that will embarass the club. Or maybe i'm just hanging out with the wrong/right people.

You obviously weren't at the final game of the season where, even despite finding out the league was lost, the fans belted out songs constantly - All of which were acceptable.

And when you say no one stands up at games against the dodgy songs I think you'll find when 'Oo ah up the Ra' started getting sung at celtic park it was immediately drowned out and replaced with 'Up the celts'. That is how a sensible, intelligent person deals with conflict. No one will challenge you at a game, hopefully we just wont be able to hear you.

 

So its mainly fanatics that sing rebels in your opinion?

 

Sorry pal, but its a four leaf clover on the Celtic badge not a shamrock.

I sing Fields of Athenry with as much sincerity as I would sing Teenage Kicks.

What role does Ireland play in the club ???

FFs the local Irish fans hardly showed up in numbers at the recent games

at the Aviva, did they ?

 

With sensible omissions of songs like Roamin' in the Gloamin (more religious triumphalism than anything else) then I see no issue with songs like BOTOB. There are no sectarian references. In fact BOTOB is basically in the same category as the likes of the Foggy Dew which get's the full Molly Malone's/Riverdance treatment these days!

 

Such an ignorant post. In these thread I love how its the rebel singers get insulted because some people can't except that there is nothing wrong with singing about Irish heroes. Its not as if I start threads to have a go at those who don't sing.

If you don't want to sing fine. If you feel embarrassed by your fellow supporters. Then maybe your supporting the wrong club. I know if I felt embarrassed by my teams fans I wouldn't be supporting them.

Another thing is no one as actually came with a property legit reason about why they should be stopped other" than they damage the club"?

They don't damage the club. If they were so damaging we would be shunned by everyone. So why when I go to Barcelona and people see that im a Celtic fan do complete strangers want to shake my hand?

If your talking about media damaging us because their perception of our songs. I seriously couldn't give a * about them. If we stopped singing rebels they would find new ways to bring us down. For example after we perfectly observed a minutes silence at Ibrox on the 2nd of January we still got accused of synchronized coughing. Which is * laughable to say the least.

 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008–2011_Irish_financial_crisis

How many games did you attend last season?

 

Shocked and appalled to hear that a fan feels this way. I say "fan", singular, because I don't believe anyone else shares your desire of total abandonment of our club's heritage.

 

+1. What a stupid post

 

You are kidding right?
Do you know anything about the Club you follow?

There are reasons why the sod of turf in the centre came from Donegal in 1892 and again in 1995, and it's not because there was a turf shortage.

Back on topic - let the people sing, I love Rebel songs and don't find them offensive.
What I do find offensive, is media, politicians and ignorant knobs treating Celtic supporters and those from Mordor, as exactly the same, and tarring us (and our songs), with the same brush, regardless of actions.
Can't believe in this day and age, politicians can get away with telling people what set of songs are acceptable to sing in public!

People used to get "transported" here for singing the Peeler and the Goat FFS!

 

Ive sang the rebel songs at games. Bit risky because Im not even from the UK but *. I can tell you, too, that at the Celtic games Ive been to in the States, in the areas where the fans were singing, we were all full blast with the the rebs. I see the argument that some may see the songs as sectarian but they really aren't if you know anything about them. I sing them because first of all it adds to the atmosphere and secondly because it speaks to the clubs connection to sympathies for a united Ireland and the history of the war of independence. England is the auld enemy of scotland too so even Celtic fans with no Irish heritage can have a good sing song too. Celtic park has been a lot quieter since the stewards have started to crack down on these songs. You know the thing that bothers me is that the huns sing 90 minutes at a time songs like billy boys and no pope of rome which ARE anti-catholic, sectarian songs, and the stewards and the media hardly go after them the way they are after us it seems. * ridiculous. I say protest and best way to do that is to keep on singing.

 

I'm not Irish at all but I find that comment so * offensive. Read up on the club's history.

 

I couldn't just leave it with my last post. You do realise Celtic wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Ireland?

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Feel free to educate yourself on your clubs history before you make any more statements like that.

 

. I guess someone doesn't realise there is a recession in Ireland.

 

Watched 'The Official History of Celtic' over the last few days and at the end there is a narative speech about the supporters which says something along the lines of "Celtic is a club with Irish roots to the core, and, even though in Scotland, the club and supporters are proud of its Irish history. The supporters are the heart and soul and keep the club alive. Through oppression and challenge they continue to sing, and keep Irelands and Celtics memorys and history alive and well known."

Queue speeches from Tommy Burns, Wim Jansen, Henrik Larsson, Murdo Macloed etc etc talking about how the support were there for the club when needed through thick and thin and the clubs Irish roots etc. Queue a clip of 'The Fields of Athenry' with the "Sinn Fein... IRA" add ons and some team applauding the fans.

The support has been well known throughout the world and as said before, won awards whilst singing these songs. The new generation of season ticket holders seem to disagree with all these songs and are diagracing the past support, some of home WALKED to away games to see Celtic and sang these songs. And call these people who club legends have praised as the best support in the world and the heart and sole of the club? Get a grip!

* BLESS CELTIC AND THE POPE

 

so you must be a real thicko if you think it is good for us to be singing about terrorists with rifles and grenades.

has NOTHING to do with celtic.

 

Your picking me up wrong completely. As I've said lots of times on similar threads/forums I dont have a problem with Irish songs whatsoever, I come from a Scottish/Irish background and have an affinity to both countries.

'Than they damage the club'......That is a perfectly legitimate reason to not sing the songs. I am so proud of our global reputation. We have the best fans in the world, anything that brings the club into disrepute should be eliminated completely. I understand you dont care what the media thinks of us but they, to a large extent, control public perception. Therfore our fellow countrymen and those outside Scotland will have a warped and media biased opinion of us. Why oh why would you want that?

'Nobody likes us, we dont care' I believe is sung by the Huns. Do you really want to follow this philosophy?

Fortunately we are still loved worldwide, which you seem to like, 'when I go to Barcelona and people see that im a Celtic fan do complete strangers want to shake my hand'. I love this too and want to maintain this relationship. If celtics name is smeared all over the papers and internet all season long for 'offfensive' singing what do you think that is going to do to our reputation?

And yes of course I was at the game otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned it. Maybe it was just the section I was in but I certainly couldn't hear any chants from where I was. Welcoming confrontation is immature and frankly absurd. That's the last thing I would want to be in the news.

Sorry if my posts offended you, that was not my intention, simply just stating my beliefs..........funny how that works.

 

Don't need them ........ its 2011 FFS. Got loads of other great songs that we can sing without the rebel songs. Most of the people in Ireland are not interested in Celtic anyway they are mostly all Man Utd supporters !!

 

I'm proud of Celtic's and my own Irish heritage and see no issue with celebrating that in song - although we do need to keep ourselves right, as the establishment will look to bring us down - after all the crap last season there were two Tims arrested before any huns. Sing the songs as they were written but leave out the add-ons, etc.
Hail Hail

 

celtic have never been punished for singing offensive songs in the past, and there is nothing to suggest they will in the future.

i wonder how many of the people who are saying that these songs have nothing to do with football, were criticising the green brigade and other celtic fans who were making the same argument about the poppy. the double standards is astonishing.

as for those who feel celtic has no connection to ireland, words fail me. they obviously have no clue about our club at all. do you never wonder why the tri-colour flies over celtic park?

 

* BLESS CELTIC AND THE POPE [/QUOTE]

As a proud atheist I am for Celtic 100%. However, I was unaware that the elderly ex-Hitler Youth Bishop of Rome had any connections with my team.