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Post Match Analysis ,Hearts v Celtic.

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by kennydal, Dec 20, 2009.

Discuss Post Match Analysis ,Hearts v Celtic. in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. kevbhoy88

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    Ha that wully collum is/was? an r.e teacher at my old high school, had the guy a cuple of times....wee specky *!! That defence is giving away 2 goals a game and you just know theyre going to make at least 1 bad mistake EVERY * game!! It is getting beyond a joke and needs to be sorted as soon as! The midfield and forwards must be getting right * off with that shambles of a defence, the team is playing well on a consistent basis and then they kunts of CBs take it in turns to give other teams a goal, were having to score 3 * goals a game just to win! Id * bin those mugs and play the bhoy thompson and can zhengzhi not play CB if required?....just until january, they cant do any worse than those kunts whose errors could end up gifting the * huns the league!!
     
  2. Liam Scales

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  3. celticfc482

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    I agree we played well today, dissapointed we didnt score more, samaras should of scored, we hit the post a few times at least we were creating, the back really needs sorted, i agree we need 2 new CBs, one who is strong in the air and tackle and another with some pace and strong in the tackle, if it isnt fixed in Jan i cant see us winning the title with our current defence who have lost us many goals this season.

    I was so dissapointed after we scored we were a mess, everyone running for the ball, in the paper today i was reading about nguemo, grant was saying nguemo needs to learnt os it and let the ball come to him instead of running to the ball and today he was all over the place running up the pitch chasing the ball, was dissapointing to see, the whole team were rushing everything instead of staying calm and passing the ball around, that was partly the reason we conceded everyone had a blood rush trying to clear the ball instead of trying to keep possesionand passing it about
     
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    Agree, we played well on the attack.
    Lets look at it a bit deeper.

    Boruc has not made a save to stop any goal. All he does is pick the ball out the net. He used to make the save that won us the game.

    The two centre backs Loovens and McManus, lets be truthful, they are pish pure. Mick thinks if he clears with his head or foot and it goes for a corner it good. He should not get a agme for us. Loovens , well lets not go there.

    Robson, Well down to 10 men and we need to win the game. McGinn must be put on at HT. Skippy must be subed at HT to inject some pace into the team with Fortune.

    We need to get rid of the pish as soon as possible, including fatty.
     
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    The defence is * pish, If the shame win next weekend and then manage to beat us at parkhead I think it will take some coming back from to win it.
     
  6. hairytoes

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    Don't think we should have played Robson, he's * & just hoofs it aimlessly up the park, no way he should've stayed on the pitch over & above Crosas.

    Apart from that there's not too much the manager could've done to help.

    We had the best of the game & were all over them, a few poor decisions cost us the game.

    I hope we've got CB's lined up for January.
     
  7. gunt

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    cant read much into this game. We started not great but had come onto the good football of the last few weeks before the sending off. I thought we did as well as you could expect after that. We could have won it. A few observations:

    All I noticed is that Crosas as usual looked a bit incapable when there is little space but he came onto a game as it opened up. He did the same v Happoel.

    Hinkel looked a little shaky IMO.

    Sammy and Aidan played well.

    Fortune returned to his usual form in front of goal. That is a worry.

    Robson battled well.


    One last observation is that we lost today for 3 reason:

    very bad luck
    leaky CD
    lack of clinical finishing

    All the talk is of the big mistake but we could still have won this easily if we have better finishers. That shouldnt be overlooked. I think everyone among the managerment and the support has known for 2.5 seasons that we need a couple of quality CBs and at least one more quality CF. Its really just an old old problem and its down to how much the club will invest. Remember when Loovens was first unveiled? WGS bizarely practically said he wasnt good enough and implied he was some sort of cheap/4th choice option.
     
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    I think this would have been a poor decision tactically. If your playing at tynecastle and have a man down, you need players on who can get stuck in and win battles. Crosas even though i rate him wouldn't have been as effective at that role than Robson.
     
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    I said last week that Mowbrays big comeback of the last few weeks could be for nothing if he doesnt sustain it until January. Rangers have the advantage, are flying and right now I think they are likely to win the OF game unless Mowbray reverts to a WGS style to protect our CBs. The way we are set up, a team of even slight quality can run straight through the CD and the CM do not seem to protect them either.
     
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    Mowbray to date has never looked safe in the traditionally tougher SPL games. The setup seems to completely expose our CBs except against the weaker SPL teams.
     
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    I'm with you on most things here but goal apart, I thought Sammy was crap.

    Some poor decision making, particularly the one where he should've headed it back for Skippy and the casual way he missed the open goal is unforgiveable.

    Also I wish he would just put his foot through the * ball sometimes instead of always trying to 'pass' it in.

    Aiden was outstanding again, certainty for POTY.
     
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    You need players who can keep the ball. If you need to "get stuck in" and "win battles" that says you're not good enough to keep a hold of the ball and therefore aren't good enough.

    I don't understand it, why is Britain the only place in the world were having to put in a crunching tackle is considered better than actually having the ball? :97:
     
  13. hairytoes

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    I really can't understand this mentality either, all this talk about Robson having the dig & aggression required to be worth a place in the team.

    His distribution comprises of hoofing it in the direction he is facing, big Mick has desire & heart - but as with Robbo he just jumps on the opposing players back after they run past him or as he charges into them from behind.

    We need to pass the * out of them & before the sending off we were holding the ball very very well, especially considering the speed at which Hearts were closing the ball down.

    Mowbray has to totally commit to this style of play, he shows that he fears big lumping hacking Scottish teams & feels the need to play similar type of * players in his own team to combat the bullies - this doesn't work & sends out conflicting messages.
     
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    Good post :50:

    I think it was one of WGS downfalls, he often thought too much about what the opposition did, especially in the SPL away from home, and pulled out the crayons and flip-charts instead of just sticking with the attacking players that did the job at home.

    To be fair though, I dont think Robson is a total clogger, he has a pretty decent left foot, especially at set pieces.
     
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    we can't afford to lose games like this. Just if we had a decent defence i'm sure we could have wont that. We need good defenders in janruary.
     
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    i would ship Loovens out before Caldwell...he is absolute rubbish
     
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    Yet again we hear fans saying this, it really really annoys me rotten. :31:

    We are not shipping Caldwell out, he has been offered a contract & has not signed it - instead choosing to demand £1millions+ per season.

    He feels that money is worth more than captaining Celtic (we are probably still offering him an average everyman's salary every fortnight) & will happily go to Wolves, Middlesbourgh or * Birmingham to collect his hard earned cash.

    The guy has no ability to improve himself & cannot take on instruction - his fake Twitter is so funny because it is so realistic.
     
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    * stumped as to how we lost that match yesterday. I suppose it comes down to the old maxim of not taking your chances. :54: Even with 10 men we were the better team yesterday and if it wasn't for Samaras and Fortune'e missing two sitters I feel sure we'd have won that game. I'm so mad at Samaras right now for missing an open goal yet I have to accept he scored our goal yesterday and has played well of late.

    Perhaps the most telling thing of all is that Hearts had about two decent attacks in the whole second half and yet still managed to score a goal. Our defence is just not at the races. Please *, santa, dermot, Tony, Peter whoever.........bring us a good centre-half in January. We're desperately desperately needing one!
     
  19. Overkill187 Batshitcrazy

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    our defence is still a disgrace and I have lost hope that it's gonna change anytime soon. we need a strong general. a leader, that conducts the whole defence. Caldwell has been a leader last season and it looked much much better, although not fantastic. this season, Caldwell is way off form and neither McManus nor Loovens are leaders and neither are decent footballers.

    we don't need to spend £3-4 at all on a guy that would improve our construction area really much. there are plenty of strong and good defenders playing in Holland, Belgium, Germany, France and even Switzerland. instead of getting overrated and especially overpriced pish from the championship, we should check out other countries and leagues too.

    Daniel Majstorović would have been an excellent signing 4 years ago.
     
  20. mairilouise

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    Ye its starting to seem like teams don't even have to play well against us to get a result against us! We outplayed Dundee Utd and lost and we outplayed Hearts yesterday and lost and it all stems back to our defence, although our forwards missing sitters can't be excused...

    2 Centre back are on my wishlist for January but i don't think we will be as lucky! I also think that our 2 full backs Fox and Hinkel are getting away with critisism, they don't stop crosses coming into the box enough for me! If i was playing alongside out pathetic CB's id make a special effort to stop the ball going into the box!!