Poppy Thread.

I agree with the GB, although I support the WW1 and WW2 dead. They are well within their right to express their opinion but can't force it on others. If any of our players wish to wear it, let them. Same goes for the other side of the fence (those who agree with the poppy/British army/etc), don't force people to wear it as there are a pile of reasons people don't agree.
The MP for Derry has no right wading into the row though and neither do the huns and media who state it is blatant sectariansim. It's not an expression of hate against a religion. Read a dictionary!

 

That's got nothing to do with a charity raising funds sorry. Any party that was elected to government this year would have had to have made cuts to the defence budget. Also it was originally supposed to be a 25% cut to the defence budget but the defence secretary argued it down to an 8% cut (thank *).

 

One player it meant a lot to last season was Fortune, who prayed for the whole minutes silence. Reasons like respecting his, and those who want to commemorate via minute silence is why the booing and singing during it is wrong. Simply wait outside and go in afterwards if you dont agree.

 

iThe GB seem to think they can speak for everyone witch by reading this threads not the case.I personally wouldn't buy or wear one but there is a lot of celtic fans who have family in the army & also celtic players were also in the army.

Could staff please add a poll i would like to see the outcome.

 

I think the GB do some great stuff in creating a atmosphere at games.

But they should NEVER be allowed to divide the Celtic support!!

Well done Celtic for apologising.
Been working down south & the amount of decent football fans who have said that banner was out of order is embarrassing & yet again drags Celtic down as a club that encourages ALL.

 

oh right mate here it is then!




At half-time during today’s match against Aberdeen we displayed message banners calling for ‘No bloodstained poppys on our hoops’ in protest at the Club’s decision to once again wear the poppy on our shirts during next week’s game at St Mirren (a match our group will not attend because of this decision). This is in support of an appeal by Poppyscotland to all SPL clubs. Poppyscotland describes its role as ‘supporting heroes’ and state that ‘the poppy has become a symbol of remembrance and for the sacrifices made by our Armed Forces’. Our group and many within the Celtic support do not recognise the British Armed Forces as heroes, nor their role in many conflicts as one worthy of our remembrance. Earlier this year, the Saville Report on * Sunday confirmed that 14 unarmed civilians were murdered in Derry in 1972 by the Paratroop Regiment. They were among hundreds killed by the British Army during the most recent phase of conflict in Ireland. More recently, the British Armed Forces have murdered and maimed many thousands more innocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan. The poppy remembers not just our grandfathers who fought the Nazis but also those who bombed the Belgrano and brutally occupied the streets of Belfast and Basra. While we recognise the right of individuals to remember their dead and that many within the Celtic support will wear the poppy in memory of family and friends lost in WW2 and other conflicts, we cannot accept the imposition of the poppy onto our shirts.

As far back as April, representatives from the Green Brigade, Celtic Supporters Association and Celtic Trust met with Peter Lawwell to express our united opposition to the Club imposing the poppy on the first team jersey. We also know that the AICSC and many other individual supporters had called on the Club to reverse their position of previous years and take the poppy off the shirt. Following our meeting in April, the Club were contacted on several occasions for further dialogue on the issue but informed us that they were still considering their position and would get back to us. The first any group knew of the decision was after it had been made, and publicly announced. We share the views of the AICSC whose recent statement on the poppy stated that ‘to see the jersey being used as a medium for such a divisive symbol and the message it communicates is deplorable’, and that it showed a complete lack of respect for the support, further highlighted by repeated declarations on the official website of Celtic’s delight to be wearing the poppy and supporting Poppyscotland. It appears rather than leave his politics at the door, chairman John Reid, the former Armed Forces Minister and Secretary of State for Northern Ireland and Defence, has forced his onto the first team jersey.

As you may have noticed at today's game, we mistakenly missed out the 'D' in 'bloodstained'. This happened in the rush to finish two displays for today's game (with our 'Show the SFA the red card' action before the match the other). The real mistake, however, is the Club forcing the poppy onto our shirt

 

I think it's been reported fairly on SKY..

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surely more than one person was makign the banner? You'd think they'd have seen the mistake whilst painting it, or whilst checking out the banner before the went in the ground etc? If they are going to do a display as provocative as that then they need to get it right or else they become a laughing stock.

 

I reckon a lot of the British players will, and if we're going to hypothesize for all we know some players may have members or lost members in the army.

 

Thanks Alsy.

 

Unfortunately Celtic has broken it's own rules. they ask us supporters to keep politics out of the stadium, yet they bring political stuff like the poppy to the ground whenever they feel like.

it's ok for them, but not for fans. that's hypocrisy.

it's naive if they don't expect the fans to answer their hypocrisy.

 

Just because your not British or Irish doesn't mean that you won't have an opinion on the poppy. The poppy began because of the World war, remember.

 

Did you not read the GB statement? It was aimed at John Reid and they have had meetings with celtic about this. John Reid is our chairman that is for the illegal war in middle east which its wrong.

as the green brigade stated from poppyscotlad 'the poppy has become a symbol of remembrance and for the sacrifices made by our Armed Forces’ NOT JUST WW1 & 2, the GB and many of our supporters don't agree on mass murder and tyranny.

Celtic board and especially JOHN REID should see WHY Celtic was made and have a good think of what statement they put out. Next time they should ask themselves WHY Celtic was made. Supporting murdering scum is no place in Celtic in my honest opinion.

Once again well done on the GB in there fantastic support against tyranny across the world.

 

cheers jiko!

so they will be hunted down and dealt with huh? shocking they have every right to vent their feelings wether others agree or not. bullshit

 

welcome ric

 

That Sky report is spot on. The Green Brigade were an embarrassment on Saturday.

 

I thought SKY were reasonably fair there tbh - she explained a bit about the Green Brigade and there stance on the issue and also gave other supporters views. Not really an agenda one way or the other.

 

agree alsy, I love the news putting down the GB about the RIGHT for humanity against mass murder :bbpd:

But HEY! the news AND Celtic come out in statement and say its wrong and embarrassing to not support murder :bbpd:

 

This is just going to go round in circles,people have made their mind up and the arguing and bickering on here isnt going to change anything,ill still stand where i stand and so will others^,we do have the right to express our own opinions as are doing just now and so do the Green Brigade-fair enough they werent speaking for everyone.

 

Parkhead is a football ground not a political hall.

The majority go to support the football team, the badge on the top, 1888 glasgow celtic the greatest club on the planet.

Me I'm all about the hoops on matchday couldn't care less about a silly poppy, religous beliefs, or wars.

When it comes to a minutes silence wether or not its for a rival player/ the ibrox disastor or for the remebrance of those who have died in war, it should be human nature to keep your mouth shut for a mere 60 seconds. If the green brigade choose not to they should be the ones not to bother going or go in after the minutes silence.