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Olivier Ntcham

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Norm Peterson, Jul 12, 2017.

Discuss Olivier Ntcham in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. G_portillo

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    Mate some folk on this forum thought we were gona get £15m+ for Rogic who was barely playing 15-20 games a season.
     
  2. G_portillo

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    i think on the ball there isnt a lot at the club thats better than him.
     
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  3. MacEwan23 My Balls Was Hot Gold Member

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    Got a group chat with the pair of them do you?

    I mean, he only played the 85 games in 2 full season under Rodgers and 38 games last year under the two of them. He’s also forced into the team often out of position, which for me is telling.

    But ok.
     
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  4. MickMac Gold Member Gold Member

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    I think it's safe to say he's never been a regular starter under BR or NL. I'm pretty sure a lot of those appearances were as a sub and when he starts he's often been subbed. I can't remember him ever being played anywhere other than midfield.
     
  5. MacEwan23 My Balls Was Hot Gold Member

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    He started 20 league games his first season.

    He started 14 league games his 2nd, where he was injured for 13 league games. He still played in 37 games that season despite the injuries.

    He started 17 league games last season. He’s always been under utilised but these numbers suggest midfield rotation rather than him being “4th choice”.

    He’s been used at LM, DM, AM and CM. “Midfield” isn’t really a position, there’s places on the field and roles that suit players. He’s often not been used where suits him most.

    Do you really think that ability wise he’s the 4th best central midfielder at our club?
     
  6. MickMac Gold Member Gold Member

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    I've never been a fan of Ntcham. I just can't see what other people see in him (and I do try). Looking silky on the ball occasionally and playing the odd good pass isn't enough for me. He disappears out of games too much, takes too long on the ball so gets caught in possession too much, doesn't cover enough ground, doesn't tackle and for the positions he plays doesn't create or score enough. There's no point having ability if you don't use it. There's plenty of players with more ability than Ntcham who've struggled to make it because they lack the other attributes needed to be a successful footballer - commitment, effort, determination etc.
    As you say he's been played in nearly every midfield position and for me he hasn't been particularly good in any of them.
    He plays the odd good game - I think he was one of our better players against Ferencvaros - but for me that's not enough.
    I know I'm in the minority but there would be no point having a forum if we all agreed on everything.
     
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  7. MacEwan23 My Balls Was Hot Gold Member

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    Fair enough. I won’t argue with an opinion unless someone lies, but you see what you see and I see something different.
     
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    He needs a regular run. I've changed my opinion on him in the last while and think he's been one of our better players recently and will only get better with game time. Used to think he was surplus to requirements but now I think it's vital he stays and not just for the Eddy factor either.
     
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    Agree with most of this, he can be good, but he's very rarely a standout for me. I reckon in today's market we should still be able to get a decent fee though, so if someone comes in with 10 million I'd be happy for him to go.

    He doesn't always look interested. Could say the same about Eddy but that's more his style, and at least he more often than not comes up with the goods. Can't say the same about Ntcham.

    Been plenty of match threads on here with people complaining about him going missing; sometimes think because he's not always playing, people have a misconstrued memory of how good he's played for us previously.
     
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    Eddy will be fully aware Ntcham wants to leave if reports are true, don't they still live together?

    Not sure preventing him leaving and potentially complaining about still being here everyday will do Eddy any good either tbh
     
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    Media linking southampton back in for ntcham for 5m.

    After paying 7m for Armstrong with just a year left on his contact
     
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    1/2m profit, right, yeah, lol.
     
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    So what is his best position?
     
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    Wouldn't even afford one leg.
     
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    Maybe throw in Ed for £9.5m.......
     
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    Southampton could revive their interest in Celtic midfielder Olivier Ntcham after major target Weston McKennie snubbed the South Coast for a switch to Juventus.


    The English Premiere League outfit have the Parkhead playmaker on their radar with manager Ralph Hasenhuttl seeking replacements for Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg, who has joined Tottenham, and Mario Lemina, who has left for Fulham.


    Hasenhuttl had hoped to land the USA ace from Schalke, but McKennie has opted for Serie A.



    Juve have signed the midfielder on a £4million loan, which they're obliged to make permanent for £16.5million if certain conditions are met.


    Saints have various options, but Ntcham's name remains amongst those on the list.



    The French midfielder is in his fourth season at Celtic but has been in and out of the team under Neil Lennon


    The 24-year-old has also been linked with Lyon and Porto.



    Ntcham has started each of Celtic's last three games, but hasn't always been first choice at Parkhead.

    He's made 123 appearances since joining from Manchester City in 2016, scoring 23 times.
     
  17. PaulM1888 Gold Member Gold Member

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    There would be no point whatsoever in letting him go for 5 million. Be as well keeping him and using him this season, he’s a big asset to us.

    Double it and we’ll talk, 5 million is actually embarrassing.
     
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    Sounds like they're trying their luck due to uncertainty over finances during the pandemic. Cheeky *.
     
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    Needs to start every week. So much of our play went through him.
     
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    Thought he was quite poor until his assist..

    Has that in abundance but didn't impose his self much in the game until it went away from Ross County..

    Was lovely his involvement for Ajer's though..