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Odsonne Edouard

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by CelticKurd, Aug 31, 2017.

Discuss Odsonne Edouard in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. HoopyT Danny McGrains Bearded Army Gold Member

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    He was presenting one of the POTY awards.
     
  2. Skelleto

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    He will be here next season. Kind of obvious with him being at the awards. Mark my words :50:

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    Yeah always liked French Eddy, was surprised to see him at the awards cause always thought more prominent names would be presenting awards and it wasn’t that long ago he was a player for us, usually be more passage of time before someone’s invited back. I’d welcome him back with open arms, still only mid 20s, although him, Kyogo and big Idah competing for one position, might be overcrowded and one player unhappy.
     
  4. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    Aye his award appearance, for a currently playing player in another country is unusual I would say.

    Retired players is quite the norm obviously. But that from Édouard was unusual. And to be presenting award more so, I like him and want him back, but he's not exactly been a king of kings level player where youd have him hand out an award that encapsulated his time here.

    So yeah, seemed odd to have asked him to present an award, unless it was part of a process to entice him back?

    If the price is truly 8m for him, I think he comes back.
    He will be on a level with CalMac for wages, maybe a smidge under. But can see him being one of the few that does break in to the 30-35k range.

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  5. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    At the price points, has to be instead of Idah.
    Kyogo, Édouard then rely on Maeda and others to fill in if desperate. Only playing 1 up top anyway.

    No chance we spend 16m on two strikers.

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    Yeah my points but better explained.
     
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  7. BigDoggyWoofWoof

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    I wasn't a massive fan of Edouard as a player for us and haven't forgotten how his head went in the 10IAR year. He didn't want to be here then, I don't really want him here now. The Idah or Edouard discussion is a false dichotomy, I'd rather see us do some scouting and identify a new target we can be excited about.
     
  8. kenniemk2

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    I agree edouard left and kyogo came directly in and it was as if eddy was never here that’s how good kyogo is


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    He had 23 goals, 8 assists, 39 games the Ten season. In a team with two tactics - hope Eddy can do something, and Ryan Christie shoot on sight.

    First half of the season there was 3 tactics, give it to Frimpong hope he’ll do something.

    He wasn’t happy we promised him a move and then refused to sanction one, but if that’s his return giving up and not trying, just how * good was he ‘trying’ in a team that was well coached and firing all cylinders?
     
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    Kyogo’s * hot. Doesn’t detract from Eddy’s Celtic career though, he’s unfairly maligned due to the last season he was here. He often gets compared to Moussa, but that comparison rarely gets pointed out Dembele was here 2 years, 2nd season wasn’t anywhere near the 1st, and when we knocked back Lyon he came into training and threw a strop till we accepted the bid.

    Eddy - 4 years, we promised him a move if a bids there, refused all enquiries and he scored 23 the following season. But didn’t smile about it, in a * team, during Covid, no fans, when he had long covid as well.

    Why do * get on his back? Eddy gets blamed more than Leigh Griffiths. Who was 3 stone overweight coming into that season, and is a fat alky nonce.
     
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    Because surely, that's what a manager should to.

    Square pegs in round holes and all that.

    This isn't about changing tactics to suit a players style, it's adapting tactics to get the best out of the players you have, and optimising their strengths.

    Kyogo is absolutely lethal when used properly. Rodgers himself was complaining about him mid season , for drifting back, trying to get involved in play, because he has been literally starved of service.

    It could be six if one, half a dozen of the other, ie. No Jota , as well as the managers tactics.

    But either way, Kyogo is a better option than Eduoard, all day long imo, and signing Eddy would be indicative that the manager is either too stubborn, or too incompetent to get the best out of the best striker in the country.

    And not to get into not picking, but a mentally stronger Sevco side without a squad full of bottlers would've pushed that title over the line. Our football this season has been pretty *, and we left it a late late show to finally come together and deliver the minimum requirement for Rodgers to keep his job. The title.

    So no, Rodgers doing what he was employed to do, not work some miracles, or overthrow a dominant Sevco side, is not a point of evidence I would look to which could explain why in earth Eduoard would be a better option than Kyogo.

    He just isn't. And the money it would take to get him back here would be scandalous for us to waste, not when there's so many other positions needing major surgery
     
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    Agree with this also.

    Don't understand the criticism of Eddy's last year.

    Don't want him back, not at all, not for the prices and wages being quoted. But don't get the "downed tools" narrative.

    Lennon lost the dressing room, and Eddy was quite literally the ONLY thing we had going for us in that tragic * season.
     
  13. Liam Scales

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    Turnbull and Soro were shining lights. Like Turnbull actually was, but Soro mate. * sake.


    Eddy and Ajer were both promised moves, verbally not contractual. And we denied both them, and the two of them that season were two of our only performers. But neither were happy.

    Ajer was PotY, and he was * raging and pish up until Maldini publicly praised him. Then he realised * were watching, and he was a bright spot in dark days. As was Eddy. Who had a thankless task, and delivered. But still gets slated.


    edit: and I’ll add Christie in as a victim of that season and management, got slaughtered as a greedy *. Turns out he was told shoot on site, the more he did, the more he missed, the more we went for him. He was following tactics. No wonder he done the bunk. His Da constantly screaming for a move didn’t help that either tbf
     
  14. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    I don't agree that a manager should change his style to suit one player. Changing tactics to suit a player and altering tactics to try and get better out of a player is surely the same thing?

    Unless that player is Messi or more relevant to us, Larsson.

    Kyogo for me has been more impacted by the lack of quality out wide rather than anything else. Still managed close to 20 goals in this supposedly shocking style and would have gotten close to 30 had he not been relying on sub par wingers most of the season. Its a MASSIVE part of our form this season that people seem to be ignoring. Jota and a fit and focused Abada either side of him this season makes up for a lot of issues and we've seen the past few months Rodgers can employ a style to get balls across the box. We haven't had the team to do it consistently.

    This is something people seem to ignore and immediately put it all down to him not suiting Rodgers approach. I don't think he does enjoy it as much as Anges but I disagree it's as detrimental to him as some. There's other factors. I also think he himself has to do more. People jusr seem to want to blame Rodgers for everything, as ever.

    Rodgers can't compensate much for a ball being played into him and it bouncing off like a trampoline 80% of the time. He's not a great player technically, imo.

    Edouard if it was possible would suit us more now and is and always has been a better footballer than Kyogo. For me.
     
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  15. BigDoggyWoofWoof

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    You have to think as well though how he'd fit in to our current setup. I never thought he was that great a finisher, a far better player when he focused on letting others in. But who's he letting in now? Maeda? Palma? Yang?

    You have to think about value as well. How much are Palace asking, what wages would Eddie ask, and what might that money get us elsewhere? To me, it's a step backwards. I'd like to see us do some scouting and look at some new options.
     
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    Would rather get the hun skelper Dembele back!
     
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    It shows how bad that season was when Soro looked like our best player. The following season he looked like a headless chicken with no idea how to play football.
     
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    Nah, Eddy is a better player. Loved Dembele but after the way he left, and given the current manager that's even more of a stretch than Eddy returning.
     
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    I actually found Dembele a far better striker than Edouard. But Eddy was a class player as well and if he came back now, i think he would absolutely destroy the league.
     
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    Anyone not wanting him back ain’t the full shilling.
     
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