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New Manager Poll

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by LectersLuncheon, Jun 7, 2023.

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  1. saltire78

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    I'm not quite getting the hate for his 'managerial career' given that he took over a club that clearly had issues (hence previous manager sacking), and within about 4 months had been punted already (sounds very hire/fire from the board) where he was stuck with the players he had who had probably already given up the ghost. In his first ever shot in the hotseat...

    Edit: oh, and he only actually lost 5 of 14 games. Sounds * to is, because we're used to near 99% win/draw ratios but it's probably completely normal for smaller teams

    Personally, I just think he's too inexperienced. I wouldn't see reason to say he's poor, because noone actually knows... I would be very disappointed if we put him in charge of a CL campaign. Also couldn't see the board giving him much money without SERIOUS oversight, because he's no transfer credibility so far. A move that just doesn't work for me. It'd be Deila all over again
     
  2. PaddyJamieson

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    Obviously, but you're missing out the parts before that which are critical. He wouldn't be coming into a hotch potch young squad who aren't used to his style. He'd be coming into.a cohesive squad who have been playing a similar football for two years. A lot easier to implement your ideas and have immediate success in that context.
     
  3. Lecs

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    Hopefully it's all done and dusted by Monday morning.

    The quicker the new boss comes in the better. Nae messing about, then get some signings in the door.
     
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  4. LectersLuncheon

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    Think I'm in the "ah well, * it, give hims chance" boat now .

    Knutsen should be a number one target, plan A, B and C. With Iraola a serious contender. But as a alternative if both were to say no, I wouldn't be doom and gloom, not right now .

    Plus I'd seriously fancy Pep Guardiolas assistant to wipe the * floor with Steven Gerrard's assistant.
    Levels.
     
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  5. murphy88

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    His methods won’t be identical to Ange’s. He will have his own things he wants to implement. With Ange being away as well, we don’t know for certain that the players he brought here will still want to remain. I’d imagine most will, but perhaps not all.

    Bringing in a managerial novice won’t help with that. We need to be showing the players here that we can bring in a top manager to progress them further. Again, Maresca, going on evidence so far, doesn’t bring that. This is where I’m warming to the idea of bringing back Rodgers. I want Knutsen, but it appears it’s now between Rodgers and Maresca. Rodgers is a top manager who will undoubtedly command respect from the current squad. Maresca might, he might not however. It’s a gamble we should not be taking given the position we find ourselves in just now.

    The biggest critical thing to go on, and the only evidence we have on Marrsca’s managerial capabilities are a failed stint at a team in Serie B. Dress it up any way you want, but that’s the facts. We should be aiming for much higher than him.
     
  6. Double Dutch

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    This is a vital point. The groundwork has already been laid for him, if he's as talented a coach as we're led to believe then we could be the perfect club at the perfect time for him to make the step up into management.

    Is it a risk? Yes it is, but there are no guarantees with ANY appointment, even someone like Rodgers. And tbh, I don't know how anyone has the brass neck to get angry over the thought of a 'risky' appointment, after how spectacularly we were all proven wrong by Postecoglou.
     
  7. saltire78

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    Apples and oranges though... Ange had a highly experienced, successful track record. It was cultural bias that was at work against him. This us a far more 'vanilla' concern about an untested, unknown quantity being given the keys to the Father's Ferrari...
     
  8. LectersLuncheon

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    Not that I'm advocating for Maresca, but couldn't the same sort of rationale be applied in support?

    Ange was a manager who was successful at minnows in leagues in Asia etc etc. What could he know about possibly training elite players and honing them into CL level competitors ?

    Then you have Maresca. The players would surely be hopeful that given his history and connections, that he's experienced to develop their game and bring them up a few levels?

    I'm not saying that's the case, just alot if what ifs.
     
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    Ange had actual managerial experience, although a risk he at least had that, the job isn't one for a total rookie.
     
  10. StevieBhoooy!

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    Awright…. Who voted for Steve Clarke ?

    Own up … apologise …and leave the forum now.

    :drag:
     
  11. AdamRS Gold Member Gold Member

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    I voted Knutsen but would Ange beat that Spain team with the current Scotland Squad? I don’t think he would, we’d be 3-0 up at half time and lose 5-3.
     
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    True but there must be a lot of people who have faith in him to deliver, otherwise the multiple other names rumoured would be in with more of a shout of getting the job.

    End of the day if he gets it, which is looking a certainty at this point, we've got to believe he can do the job and get behind him. I don't see the point in going ballistic about it when there's every chance it could work out. If it doesn't, then we have problems to be dealt with.
     
  13. saltire78

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    Sure! I was never against Ange though because I saw his record - leagues, cultures, media profile and international management. And for what it's worth, I'm not against Maresca. It's just a gamble to me, since he'd be managing a team in the highest competition in the football leagues on his first time as head honcho, and where there's real potential for board level interference if he's thought to be pliable to it...

    In his favor, he's coming from the strongest possible position a non-manager could be, we're as strong a platform he could hope to land on, our players are not egotistical so should be cooperative and with the CL for last and this year he should be able to assert his changes.
     
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  14. saltire78

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    The worst case scenario, I think, is that he's out of his depth and we get into a direct dogfight with the Huns. If he's competent and able to motivate the players I think he'd still roll over the line domestically. The CL for me is a freebie, so he may as well be bold and do his own thing - we're almost certain not to go beyond Christmas anyway from pot4, unless we're lucky or he really does land a new strength there.

    He's a gamble, but not a massive one, for me. I just don't see the need to gamble when we could back a dead-cert
     
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  15. adequate citizen Zenon Gold Member Gold Member

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    I voted Rodgers.
    I want next season to be a smooth transition from the success we've enjoyed this year.
    Widen the gap, gest something out of the European journey, consolidate strong financial position of the Club - and then you can fly to * away to wherever you wish.
    Then it will be a time for experimenting and potential risk taking.
    Just my view.
     
  16. murphy88

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    Canny believe some fans are actually trying to advocate a managerial novice with one job that has turned out a failure given the position we are in. Total diddy club mentality in all honesty. We are a * massive club, and should be aiming for a manager that fits that, especially considering what lies ahead next season.
     
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  17. richie87 Gold Member Gold Member

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    I voted Knutsen but of the ones I like from the above list

    Potter will be hoping to move into a PL team won’t want to come to Scotland
    Rodgers the same although his relationship with DD makes him a more possible acquisition.
    Knutsen may be hard to persuade to come to us.
    Maresca is untried but has the potential to be good and has links to a support Celtic try to tap into with the city group
    Moyes and Clark are non starters for me
    Iraola same as Knutsen may be hard to persuade to join
     
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    Over 250 votes in so far.
     
  19. Wee Baldy

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    I honestly haven't a clue now as there are too many choices available. I just want somebody decent who have the same sort of impact Big Ange or Rodgers or MON had. I would accept taking Rodgers back if he delivered the goods although there will always be that part of me who will never forget how he jumped ship.
     
  20. richie87 Gold Member Gold Member

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    I’m scanning the odds sites to see if any name pops up or moves into favourite.