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Neil Lennon

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by romeo9535, Apr 17, 2016.

Discuss Neil Lennon in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Crilly Hakuhna matata

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    * them, if we lose it it’s all down to us and our lack lustre performances. And tbh we haven’t looked the sharpest in 3 matches that I can recall so far out of what 6/7? That’s why I’d fear it’s in doubt. Hopefully I’m wrong but feel there’s only so many times we can say it’s still only early days we’ve all season. We need to be racking up results now
     
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  2. Maestro 08

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    I've seen a good few say it but getting rid of Lennon now would be suicide, we need stability this season and Lennon has enough about him to see us to the 10. After that, I'm not so sure anymore. Domestically i think he could continue to dominate but this club needs, wants and demands more than that.
     
  3. Slater67

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    Totally agree mate they were absolutely * far worse than cluj and Copenhagen

    the worrying aspect is in the previous 2 we got a good 1-1 draw away from home and tonight we started from scratch at home and we actually lost all 3 at home in all 3 we lost a stupid goal to defensive errors managed to get it back by equalising then let aw 3 go up the park again with defensive errors to take the lead again
     
  4. FrankMcCallum

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    Didn’t think on it like that man, that’s absolutely honking.

    Shows an incredibly weak mentality.
     
  5. Slater67

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    Tbh mate, this season A would have been happy without the distraction of the champions league , 7-0, 5-0 7-1 in between league games only deflates confidence and the money we get from him never goes on a better player, Europa league is definitely our level and tonight was absolutely shocking but that said call me shallow but I’d much rather win 10 in a row than have a gallant losers decent run in Europe this season

    Seville run was great In 2003 but at the end of the day We won nothing that season and the Huns won a treble
     
  6. Moustache

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    His position should be in question at this point.

    If this was just some freak result with us being completely * and them playing out of their skin, then I'd still be * off, but I could live with it. Whilst there were some undeniably poor performances, the real issue is the completely bizarre, and frankly inept, tactics we've seen time and again. He just refuses to learn from his mistakes.

    I thought it was bad enough when he was seemingly reluctant to play two up top against weaker opposition, despite it clearly suiting us better, but tonight's formation was something else. Then you have his refusal to make changes and completely incompetent use of substitutions. I don't know if it's a pride thing, in that he doesn’t want to admit that he's made an * of it, but he regularly sticks with formations or tactics that aren't working. Then when we do get a change it's usually after the 70th minute and, more often than not, it's the wrong player being subbed. It's * us in Europe repeatedly and while we get away with it domestically most of the time due to the gulf between us and the rest of the league, the Kilmarnock and United games should be cause for concern.

    What's truly worrying me though is the team selection. Brown is clearly struggling and it's literally costing us games, Forrest needs a break (and some competition) and he's forcing players into the starting XI regardless of whether or not it works. Why is Christie being forced out of position instead of playing Klimala, an actual striker? I'm sorry, but I don't buy the 'he's not match-fit' excuse. I'm not expecting him to last the full 90, but I'm genuinely struggling to believe that we couldn't get at least a decent hour or so out of him. The guy seemingly has a good attitude, he's putting in the effort and he's previously scored for us. What more can he do? If he turns out to be a bit of a dud, so be it; but at least give him a * chance. How many players have we bought over the last few years and barely given a runout? If you're Klimala, Soro and Connell you’d honestly be wondering if you've made a mistake.

    Tonight was an utter disaster, but those post-match comments are even more concerning. Not only is it a blatant attempt at deflection, it's dressing room poison. This result likely ensured certain players will be leaving (i.e. Edouard) but all his comments have achieved is potentially weakening our negotiating position and stirring up drama. It honestly reads like petty high school bullshit. Between this and our * domestic performance, there's definitely some alarm bells ringing.

    He won't be sacked over this and he certainly won't walk. Regardless of how this season pans out, he needs to go next year. There's been clear regression and we're in desperate need of new ideas.
     
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  7. Bunk Moreland

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    Klimala isn't "match fit" because Lennon hasn't been playing him alongside Eddy in league games where we should by playing two up front every * game. It's his * fault Klimala isn't match fit!
     
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  8. Wizard of Oz

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    He came out after the game talking a power of * about certain players not playing like they want to be here yet doesn't start the guy who spent the entire covid break putting extra work in to improve his physicality for the league because he felt he needed to improve there. He has a guy who didn't play much last season and rather than let his head drop and wait to get out out his misery, has put work in and effort for the manager and the team. His decisions have contradicted his own complaints tonight. Those comments haven't sat well with me and I think he's a bit of a coward for them. He has one striker who has worked his * off to try and get a chance here and one who has just scored at the weekend yet started none of them. Worst case scenario, if they aren't really that fit, is you sub off the fitter one at the 60 minute mark and get the other on. That would fit his unwavering desire to refuse to play the 352 that turned around the season domestically last season after we became stale too.

    I can't understand him. He's baffled me tonight beyond belief after praising him so much for his work domestically after January. He's a shitebag in Europe. Shat playing the 352 against Copenhagen (Opting for * right back Ajer with Frimpong on the bench and the centre half where Ajer should have been gifting a goal) and he's shat it tonight by showing a pathetic lack of faith in anyone but his personal favourites (I mean come on to *, he'd rather play an attacking mid who is at his best facing goal as a false 9, like he's playing draft on FIFA). Rodgers is an * and had flaws with no plan b but no doubt we'd have gutted this mob tonight had we had a manager with similar coaching ability to him
     
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  9. dbhoy72

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    The result ain't unexpected, regardless of being 1/3.

    Have to say we look like going full circle back to Ronny days with players looking jaded.

    Even the team is a majority of Ronny and BR team, no mark of NL about it, goalkeeper because they all left and LB for KT who left, RB who got old. The rest is just a team that has started to stagnate again.

    The recruitment at the club is bizarre, guess the Schved deal with BR doing a press conference saying he didn't have a clue about him was the writing on the wall. That seems to have continued with NL not freshening up the team or having any trust in newer faces.

    Tonights striker debacle and most worryingly that press conference to me doubts this season big time now.

    Lenny for me was the guy I wanted to do the 10, but when he came through the door I mentioned I didn't trust him to do it, I'm hoping I'm proved wrong.

    But tonight and with the probable loss of our best player I can't see it at all.
     
  10. SuperZidane

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    I couldn't agree more. I wasn't keen on giving him the job in 2019 - I doubted he would be able to lead us to 10IAR (unless Rangers get into financial difficulty again). I have never rated Lennon as a tactician - I don't ever recall seeing a game where we were being outdone tactically and he has made a change and turned it around. He usually only makes like for like substitutions and, even then, almost always too late.

    I don't know why anyone is surprised that he is blaming the players - that was his usual refrain when he was here the first time and we had a bad result. When he came back (very luckily in my view) - he held back a bit but I'm afraid he still reverts to it (when we lost to Cluj last year - another tactical disaster against an average team).

    Even a couple of weeks ago at Kilmarnock - him + JK were simply staring into space when our tactics didn't work and the substitutions that day were baffling.

    I have no hesitation in calling out Lawwell but so far we have forked out 4.5m on a goalkeeper and 5m on a striker and we are at least talking to Turnbull, Duffy and possibly Hickey.

    I don't think at this point, he can be accused of not being willing to spend in pursuit of 10IAR.

    However, you can have great players but if you don't have tactical ability - they can be wasted. I also think his tactic of blaming the players won't work - he could end up losing the dressing room as he did at Hibs.

    As someone else has pointed out - you could see Edouard, Ajer etc thinking about moving on. The SPFL is no great attraction and now there is no ECL either. Let's be honest - Lennon is not a renowned coach, good players are not going to come or stay just for the opportunity of working under him.

    I have no doubt that PL will stick with him. However, as much as I hate to admit it, Rangers have improved. If they don't collapse like they did after Christmas - 10IAR is in real danger.
     
  11. honda Gold Member Gold Member

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    Any other manager getting knocked out at this stage again would be sacked. Two attempts and nothing. Everyone likes lenny but look at the difference when we went for a high calibre appointment. Undefeated for a year and champions league football. Yes we got snaked to * in the end but the success was unprecedented. Maybe I'm hurting, but this wasn't the playoffs where we meet a decent team. It was an early round, at home ffs.


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    I just heard his interview about players should leave. It wasnt the players fault this time, it was fully tactical. We had enough cut backs and chances to win by 9 but with no strikers what do you think would happen? Not match fit? Play one for 45 the other for 45. Who would have thought? * joke. I'd consider letting Lennon go purely down to that interview and imo risking the dressing room on the 10.
     
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  12. Sonic Reducer

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    Then why play them if they're not committed.
     
  13. cammy07

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    After that shambles last night we aren't even seeded in both europa qualifiers, I'd be quite surprised if we even make that at this stage tbh.
     
  14. LectersLuncheon

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    What Lennon did last night was unforgivable.

    Not ONE person looked at that line up and said "ooh I see what you're doing there Neil, very clever". It had shambles written all over it.

    I said it during the match thread... Last night we were given the slippy g special.

    A confusing personnel line up... Check

    Not playing players were they belong... Check

    Refusing to change to PROVEN tactics that have worked... Check

    Watching us struggle for the entire first half and making no changes at the break... Check

    Waiting until the game is gone to make a sub... Check

    Throwing his players under the bus and then contradicting himself by "taking responsibility"... Check


    He either fixes this mess that HE is responsible for, storms this league and delivers the 10 or he's done.

    Unfathomable that last season he switched it up and went two up top and swept away all pretenders... Now reverting to the * that forced the switch up in the first place.

    Lennon was lucky he was in an empty paradise last night otherwise he would have felt the pure rage of 60 thousand over his head.

    He's on thin thin thin * ice. And Peter Lawell will be under it when it breaks.
     
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  15. littlekennie

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    The inevitable happy clappers incoming

    We should all be in the same page and get this unprofessional * out of the club


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  16. Pearse67*

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    I like Neil, he is a celtic man to the very core, but he is a yes man to the board, his stubbornness to change is infuriating.

    case in point is Scott Brown, again a celtic hero but there is no room for sentimentality in football, it isnt scott brown fc its celtic fc and all decisions are made for the betterment of the club.

    other cases is players being shoe horned into strange positions, last night was the final straw where he went full craig levein and didnt pick a single striker whilst near 9m of strikers sat on the bench, he signed klimala! He obviously doesnt fancy him 1%, taylor is a * donkey also who continues to start each game.

    The buck doesnt stop with neil though, that * lawell needs ran out of the club, constabt dithering, drawn out transfer sagas are mentally draining, losing john mcginn was bad, how many more?

    why are players signed then not given a single chance? Soro, shved, bayo, the list goes on and on.

    then just look at the last few seasons, aek, cluj, ferencvaros, Copenhagen, absolute non entity clubs, dumping us at home ffs.

    i honestly do fear for this season and the 10, neil cones out with some baffling * talk.

    inly one thing solves this, sign a commanding cb, sign a pacey, hard lwb, sign a winger, get griff up and firing, drop brown and go 352 and actually close teams down and get pacey, we play like that the huns will walk over us!

    im disgusted sadly.
     
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    The more I think about it the more I think the no striker upfront was * you to the board because they want to sell Eddie


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  18. cidermaster Gold Member Gold Member

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    If we do not get to the EL Group Stages,sack him.
     
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    He needs to stop picking players because they are his pals. Brown is an important dressing room figure but he should not be playing every game. We are a pedestrian team when he plays.
     
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    Ive woke up even angrier. Enjoy your corona bubble celtic, the rest of us are away into work to get absolutely slaughterd. We were gifted the 9. * it for 10. lenny out for me.
     
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