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Mr Strachan

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by jhimbhoab, Jan 3, 2007.

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  1. Johnbhoy67

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    It was mutual consent, but there is different ways of arriving at that statement. Was it if you go quietly we will pay you in full for your contract. Or if you don't go quietly we will sack you for gross incompetancy. How doesn't really matter, if Lawwell issued the same statement regarding Strachan, the first question asked would be "Was he sacked ?" " Did the captain play a part in his downfall?". Murray will be once again crowned the new messiah when he introduces his new dream team of McCoist and Smith just as he was when he intoduced Le Guen. Short memory these hacks have.
     
  2. gav_p

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    I seriously doubt it was mutual consent. They use that term to save facce for everyone involved.
     
  3. gav_p

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    Couldnt agree more
     
  4. Dempsey

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    It was, as said by Murray himself

    I reckon Murray asked him reverse he's decision on Ferguson and PLG said No, if Im to run the team it has to be my way otherwise my authority over the team is undermined.

    Murray then wanted PLG to go but if he sacked him he could be sued for wrongful dismissal because the problem was over first team affairs and I'd suspect PLG had specifically asked for full control and no interference like Murray was trying so Murray offered him a severance package to the tune of most if not all of his contract, thats mutual consent.

    Well done PLG, ya took the money and ran
     
  5. SwoopingVulture

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    I just think that there is too much paranoia amongst Olf Firm fans in general but especially Celtic. Do you honestly believe that you have to be a hun to be employed in the Scottish sports press? Rubbish
     
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    Accidentally clicked the mouse there!
    Remember the campaign against the Herald by the Rangers fans because of Graham Speirs? The press are just doing their job. Quite often football managers, players and owners get decisions wrong. They deserved to be criticised in the media because that is what people are thinking. I've never noticed a recent Rangers bias in the press but what will get a bias against us is if players and managment do not interact with the press, answering sensible questions politely, even if the answer is a decline to reply.

    This is also to do with Graveson flipping out after he was asked about his form. The press had every right to ask about his form. He was a star signing for us and had clearly played poorly for us in some of the big games that he was signed to play well in. I would have asked him the same as well.

    The other important thing is that WGS was rude, not just to the journalist who asked the question but to the Celtic fans in general by declaring that those who had not heard him being interviewed the day before were not real fans.
     
  7. surferrosa

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    what campaign?.. did they refuse to look at the front cover as they were leaning over to get their copy of the daily rankers??

    :celt_2: :shamrock: :celt_2: :shamrock: :celt_2:
     
  8. gav_p

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    SwoopingVulture, if you can honestly you've never noticed a Rangers bias in the press, then you must be living on Mars or something.

    If you can recall a campaign against the Herald, then you must remember the Daily Record and its covering of the Celtic players when they went to Newcastle. Not only were they the only paper to cover it, they also posted it in their sports pages as well. Now, the Sports Editor for them got the SACK because of it, as Celtic were taking them to court over the story. As the Sports Editor got the sack, it emerged he also supported a certain team who played in Glasgow in blue. Wonder who that could be?

    Since then, people have deserted the Daily Record in their thousands, as they cannot trust a word that comes from that paper. The Sun, Daily Star, Mirror etc arent much better, but at least they give a neutral point of view. If anything, The Sun are more PRO Celtic than Rangers.

    Also, the paranoia thing all comes down from years ago. The only way you could get a job as a journalist about fifty years ago or so was if you were a Mason. This applied to many other jobs as well. If you're surname even sounded like being slightly Catholic, then you were never going to get a job anywhere. This all might sound a bit sectarian, but its the truth. We have sort of moved on from then on, but not much.

    You're probably thinking how I know this. I tried to get a job as journalist, and when they asked who i supported they then said thanks but no thanks.
     
  9. Maxi Bhoy

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    At the end of the day he is in charge of Celtic to win football matches and hopefully trophies, not to massage the hun press as they will distort everything he says to sell newspapers, if anyone wants to know anything about our fine club buy The Celtic View. :shamrock: :shamrock: :shamrock:
     
  10. Martin

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    In the modern game part of the manager's job is too deal with the media.

    If you want to find out what is really happening within an orgaisation (e.g. a football club) it's own publication isn't exactly going to tell you the truth warts and all. Do you think the Celtic View told the truth when the Kellys and Whites were in power ? Of course not it was full of lies. We may not like the media but they have a legitimate function. You are wrong on both points you make.

    Also given that Celtic are such a huge club with a huge support, most of whom buy newspapers, why would the media set out to * them off and alienate their own customers and jeopardise their business.
     
  11. surferrosa

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    dunno ask the * at the daily rankers and hunday mail! :84: :84:
     
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    If they bought the newspapers, they would have know what Strachan said about Pressely, that was GS's whole point!!
     
  13. Martin

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    I am not saying that is no bias or never has been any bias in the press towards Rangers although I don't agree with you as to the extent. But I feel you miss a very important point. What is the main aim of a newspaper ? To sell as many copies as possible. Celtic are a huge club with a huge support most of whom buy newspapers. Newspaper people are business people and despite the quality of the rags they print (which are * because we tolerate it) are not stupid. It is not in the interests of their business to deliberately offend huge numbers of potential customers. The newspapers aren't owned by the journalists, they are owned by corporations, rich businessmen etc. They want profits and will not hire people they believe are costing them money. There are some topics where I feel that the bias towards Rangers exists but in the main Celtic get plenty of praise in the papers.
     
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    I don't recall asking for a job description, I simply have no respect for our beloved hun press and if you need an example of this : Author of Barry Bawbag's book, because it wisnae bawbag himself that wrote it, The name Iain King mean anything to you? I think you might find this to be ex Daily Rangers or Sunday Scum reporter. Why should he show them any respect they dont show our club any? :shamrock: :shamrock: :shamrock:
     
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    me thinks that WGS is F***kin brilliant in front of the media.... they try to take the * and he is feckin excellent at playing them at their own game.... Keep it up Gordon, its more entertaining that some of the matches
     
  16. hoops are us

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    I 100% agree with you there. I think hes a great manager and a really funny guy. At the end of the day, if were winning games then thats all that matters.

    Hail Hail
     
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    Hopps nice... in fact I canny wait until the video of WGS is up for grabs,, will be superb watching.... he can be as dry as he likes:50:
     
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    You are right you didn't ask for a job description but if you are talking about the press it helps to bear in mind what their job is. It's common sense.

    Almost every footballer who has published a book had it ghost written by a journalist. So I don't get what your point is re Ferguson and King. Are you saying that if a journalist ghost writes a book for a player then he is without doubt biased in his other work ? That's a massive leap and you offer no evidence. What if a journalist during his career ghost wrote more than one footballers biography ? Is he biased towards both their teams.

    You didn't answer the question about the business aspect of newspapers. Why would they * off huge numbers of potential customers when they are trying to achieve the highest possible sales ?
     
  19. The Game

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    As this was discussed on the radio I know my stuff


    Apparently WGS told the journo not to ask about individuals and what did he do?

    Asked about Miller, Pressley etc
     
  20. T.D.

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    who cares how he treats the media.

    9/10 members of the press are scumbags. Only interested in causing a conflict to have a better story. Its the same no matter where you are and its the same regardless of topics.