Lennon - The Chants Must Stop

Same.

 

The thing is we know the differences in the IRA that some fans are singing about.

But to other people to even mention these words is horrendous therefore I think fans should stop singing it altogether.

I don't mind singing Irish songs but the IRA parts have to stop.

I know that it is freedom of speech but this is really starting to drag our club down to their level.

We all love Celtic dearly but this is when we really need to put the club first and I really hope the fans take note of this statement from Lenny.

 

I would have hoped that at most, we would have to give up "up the ra" in the Celtic symphony (easy enough to change it to up the Celts) and the PIRA chants (which never get sung anyway except for swinecastle last season) but it seems like this isn't going to be good enough.

I just feel that the very essence of my club is being attacked, I was brought up to respect the Irish traditions of my club, to sympathise with the Republican cause and my Father and his Father believed that all were intertwined with our Charitable ethos to make us more than a just a club, a view I found out very soon that most people held when I started going to games.

Now it seems it's not ok to remember these brave men and women who gave their lives fighting for Ireland's freedom and indeed we face prison sentences for doing so if this bill gets forced through, I just don't know what's happened to my club.

As I said earlier I can live with "up the ra" chants going and PIRA chants being consigned to history but if we are forced to give up songs which celebrate the brave soldiers of the early part of the 20th century, then I feel that part of my club will have died and that makes me worried and a little sad.

It's ironic that we are being vilified from all sides for singing these songs yet the shame are being praised for cleaning up their act all the while singing songs that are at best on a par with our songs if not still worse than our songs (derrys walls, the sash, build my gallows etc.. ).

I'm not some wet behind the ears kid and I'm not a member of the GB I'm just a guy who was brought up to respect Ireland's struggle for freedom and to never forget that when I go to Paradise.

I understand that a new generation go to Celtic Park now and have no interest in Irish politics and that's fine, I respect your right to follow Celtic however you see fit, I just wish others would afford me the same right.

Call me a drama queen all you want but this has been a black week for my club.

 

dont get me wrong i like rebel songs . but tommy burns wudnae sing it jock stein certainly wouldnt sing it. gary hoopers english so is forster and thompson that would make them british. so it goes against everything the club is about needs to stop or we get sanctioned aint worth it . keep it at home like me for the sake of the club.

 

Cheers boss

Because it is no longer an armed struggle, it is a democratic struggle now regarding Norn Iron.

All true. Inside CP we firmly need to stop the mention of the IRA in name. Yes we know it doesn't mean PIRA but others don't! I don't want the songs to be aborted but certain addons need to be left out etc.

 

I don't believe for a second Lennon has come out with this without some prompting from the Board. Basically he needs to tow the party line.

If he really believes what he said, he has lost my respect and support. I would this his words will not go down to well in his hometown of Lurgan either.

Supporting the IRA did not put me in the gutter.

 

Whats wrong with The Merry Ploughboy?

 

another point think of the kids out as a family . they gonna be going home asking bout the ira and * they are too young for that * . when it affects your own it needs to stop we are a family club i understand the irish politics proud of my irish roots but it is all in the past tbh the ira gained irish free state through fighting and killing . why should that be celebrated or sung at a football match it has * all to do with football. the players must be very confused when they hear it.

 

Why are they too young to learn about the IRA?

We are taught about WW1 and WW2 in school, what's the difference?

 

sing it...and i bet a lightbulb appears over yer head.

 

What the * is the problem with the Provisional Irish Republican Army?? Can someone please tell me?

All this pish about "old IRA" are ok but the Provo songs are not does not make sense to me at all!! Both fought the British, and both were responsible for terrible things in a conflict which was very dirty.

To many in the Occupied 6 Counties Provisional Irish Republican Army volunteers are absolute hero's. Its very disrespectful for those people to listen to the * coming from people who have little or no knowledge of living in the 6 counties. Not every Nationalist supported the armed struggle however without a doubt we would not be where we are today if it was not for the IRA.

Why is it okay for us to vote for the IRA in elections ( Chief of Staff Oglaigh na hEireann Martin McGuinness ) but we are not allowed to support the same organisation or celebrate our long standing links to Republicanism........

The IRA were only terrorist to the British....to be fair, that was their job, the same as the British Army are terrorists to the Irish Republicans.

We sang the songs from the Jungle during the darkest days of the conflict so sure as * we should not stop now, after all the IRA are sitting in Stormont.

In fact, it has come to a point where many Republicans would find Provo songs offensive....but thats a whole new argument!

I supported the Provisional IRA and I am proud to have done so.

 

I supported them myself and have no problem with the songs but I can understand why others would.

I guess some of the wounds are still raw from that conflict with it being in the recent past.

 

People seem to think that no one on here realises that the songs are offensive to certain people. Every song is probably offensive to someone somewhere. What kind of country are we becoming that anything that is slightly offensive will result in a prison sentence?

 

100% true. But what it comes down to is that Celtic are a football club based in the UK and therefore, IRA songs will never be accepted.

 

Now our songs are racist

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/lennon-tells-celtic-fans-stop-racist-chants-2937864.html?

So thats, offensive, sectarian, hate filled, illicit and now racist.

What's tomorrows buzz word kids?

 

How the * is it racist?

 

Nail on head.

 

Calling the chants racist is disgraceful.

 

What an utterly stupid post.

They are seen as terrorists, does not matter what is believed. They have commited acts of terrorism and killed people, which makes it no better or worse than what the taliban have done. 2 wrongs do not make a right and thats where the PIRA faulter in my opinion.

However, you keep singing about them in Celtic Park and damaging your club mate, good on you. There is absolutely no need to mention the PIRA while watching Celtic FC.

And your comment on Neil Lennon was just as stupid. No doubt he has his beliefs what he is simply saying is keep it away from Celtic. Keep your political beliefs where they belong.

 

Celtic fans sing fascist Songs.