Lennon Calls For An End To Offensive Chanting

Rubbish

What about the LARGE majority of Rangers fans who sing Rule Brittania, GSTQ etc....(which are predominantly pro-England songs), would that not suggest that an anti-English song would offend them....even though it is being sung in 'their country'?

 

Scotland was a unified separate kingdom/state of at least 4 or 500 years standing and Edward I and II has just invaded the place and occupied a wee bit of it relativley briefly before being defeated. The two famous battles of Stirling Bridge with Wallace and Bannockburn that drove the English back were set piece proper battles of one army against another, not hit and run terrorism. Its also about 700 years ago, not some conflict which only stopped in the 1990s. That makes a huge difference.

 

did i say it was about what rangers fans found offensive or not nor did i say we sould ask them whats offensive or not for celtic to sing

 

We are talking about club football in Scotland. Indeed I dont think any national anthems are appropriate in club football, including Flower. In international games they are 100% appropriate because it is one country against another.

 

why did you mention that then?

 

As are most of your replies.

If the 'rebellious Scots' were in uprising against the English today...they would be classed by media as terrorists...full stop.

Wether it was 700 years ago, wether it was a one-man army or a 2000 man army...the facts remain the same.....both sides fought the invading and plundering English from THEIR land.

 

aye it was all a just war

so because it's recent we shouldn't sing about it? no chance.

if it wasn't for brit invasion then mass immigration would have been unlikely.

there'd be NO celtic.

republicanism and nationalism are a big part in the background of this club and we should be proud of our roots and fight against oppression in the past present and future.

 

where did i say beofre this post about them puicking our song book

 

Its a good call from Lenny, especially as UEFA will be looking very closely when we play in Europe next season.

 

and rightly so.

 

more awards with any luck

 

Nope. There are some rebel songs that do not explicitly mention the IRA in their lyrics. Roll of Honour, Fields of Athenry, Aidan McAnespie etc.

 

worded it fine, no probs understanding what was meant.


oneupsmanship doesnt suit ya fella, give it a rest.

 

I have no problems with leaving the P-IRA chants at the door.

I will continue to sing songs which are relevant to Irish history (fact), as Celtic are my club, I am Irish decent, a majority of the club supporters are of Irish decent, these songs have been sung before I was born and will continue to be sung - as they are not sectarian.

Offensive to some? maybe.

Thats their problem.

 

Ireland was not a unified kingdom. It was very divided among itself. Only one or two king even got close to politically unifying Ireland and that was really just a test of strength among rival kings who hated each other. Ireland was culturally unified before the English came but it was very very divided politically. There were guys who called themselves high king but they were really kings of one of the 4 provinces, no more.

 

why did you mention this?

 

Lenny's asked the support to stop singing songs that are offensive and embarrass the club

We all know he means the IRA bile that was spewed out at tynecastle

But it would help the support if the club confirmed what rebel songs were and weren't acceptable so we know where we stand

If they get around to doing that, will the people on here saying "i dont give a * i will sing what i want when i want" continue to sing songs that the club say are unnacceptable even if it embarrasses our great club and potentially leads to sanctions such as docked points???

And dont give me no crap like "its not sectarian its not bigoted etc etc" we all know the SFA will be only too happy to change the rules so we get a hammering

 

If these songs, as Gunt and Bhoy1 say, are so anti-English and offensive.....then how come our former English players have nothing but praise for our support and have themselves become genuine supporters of the club......surely as the songs are about their nation, they would be deeply offended....yet are not!

Strangely enough, it only seems to be a number of backward Scots who are offended .

 

he was answering padmills question which was "Again, what has YNWA or LTPS (Which, let me tell you - huns find offensive!) got to do with Celtic?

 

I totally agree the PIRA chants should stop now,the slimecastle chanting was a reaction to what was going on and we havent heard that stuff for ages.
However the rebel songs should stay,they are part of being a celtic supporter
and have been for decades.Igrew up in the 60's/70's standing in the jungle learning songs such as Sean South,Kevin Barry,Wild Colonial Boy etc and dont anyone on here tell me that practically everyone who went to games then didnt partake in these ballads.Of course the songs changed as the conflict in the North escalated.Different songs were written and adopted by the support,these same songs that are being debated so vigorously today by a new breed of fans.Of course the main point should be,do they have aplace at a football match ? This is where we all agree to disagree.The songs are not sectarian and I wish people would stop posting about Celtic fans singing sectarian songs.Roamin in the gloamin and North men South men add ons are classed as sectarian but they are now rarely sung .Igo to every game and have not heard these songs been sung for ages.
For all you people on here and elsewhere that advocate the banning of rebs and say that we should all be singing Celtic songs only Iwould like to know where youse all are at Parkhead every other week because I hardly hear anyone singing at all apart from the GB,who have to be commended for their displays and the atmosphere that THEY create.Apart from the odd
Walk On the place waslike afuckin morgue pre GB.Now the atmosphere at away games aretotally different where rebs are sung,and I suspect that the majority of people against them are the ones who are sitting on their hands at Celtic Park and are running out the exits with 20 mins to go so they can get a quick getaway rather than applauding the team !