Lennon Calls For An End To Offensive Chanting

Yes, but not the people we sing about, not Bobby Sands or Aiden McAnespie

 

Re: tal pure *.

very intelligent mate Grow up.



as for the Ira songs not having anything to with celtic, that's a weak argument, as others have pointed out, Neither do YNWA LTPS, the fields,just cant get enough etc

 

Where did I mention anything about the IRA? At least try to answer the numerous question put to you in a mature fashion.

Again, what has YNWA or LTPS (Which, let me tell you - huns find offensive!) got to do with Celtic?

 

question.

what are peoples views on flower of scotland? its about rebelling...should it be banned?

 

I think people have let this take over them.

Lennon quite deliberately doesn't go into alot of detail of what shouldn't be sung, and from my reading it's clear that he is refering to chants at Tynecastle - which as mentioned aren't really part of the songsheet and it was after our manager had just been attacked.

In my opinion this IS NOT a call for rebel songs to be totally stopped, and for those of you who think it is and want this to happen then you are * against the wind. The huns' songbook is much worse than ours, but no matter what happens they will NEVER be able to fully get rid of that.

As stated already, the rebels that are sung now are more selected and less offensive now and are also fewer in numbers than what was sung in 2003 when we won the Fair Play award. The add-ons are being cut down too, all down to self-policing pretty much. Every year, the songsheet is getting cleaner but at the same time we are not selling ourselves out for the media pressure's sake. We are slowly sorting ourselves out, which is the way to do it without drastic actions that cause more damage to the club than good.

THE HUGE difference between us and the huns is that those songs that cause offence to other is the numbers that particpate in the chanting.
I.e A minority at tynecastle who are riled up and steaming --- compared to a full house at Ibrox singing songs that are worse. (Do not take this as a pass the blame on kind of way either cause its not meant like that)

Media pressure is the real cause of this statement for me. If the huns hadn't shown themselves up at the Cup Final and got everyones attention on the subject, and caused themselves to be the centre of a 'hammering' - then due to this wonderful Old Firm tag again they say, 'aw you can't hammer one without the other' and bam we have to be seen to solve the problem, when realistically, its not that bad of a problem particularly in the context of today's politics with poverty, unemployment etc.

I'll take it with a pinch of salt.

 

how long ago was this.... is it still happning now..... had a week look on the celticfc.net don't see any IRA songs on there now mate

 

nail. head. hit.

 

No, as there is nothing wrong with rebelling against people occuping your country

 

O Flower of Scotland,
When will we see
Your like again,
That fought and died for,
Your wee bit Hill and Glen,
And stood against him,
Proud Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again.

Clearly the work of terrorists

 

Completely agree. Good post.

 

as i posted before in other post to save myself repeting myself again and again no it's got nothing to do with celtic

and never knew rangers fans found YNWA offensive btw only they did not like celtic sing it

 

indeed "terrorists"

 

NO!!!! Its about context. Its a SCOTTISH song that is pro-Scottish and is sung in Scotland. Not controversial and doesnt divide people. Big difference to an anti-British song sung in part of the UK where at least half the people still feel British to some degree and see Britain as 'there side'. This Flower of Scotland red herring just keeps popping up. You cannot ignore the context of a song. Its important. Some places are appropriate for some songs, others are not.

 

Rangers fans find ANYTHING that we sing offensive....even 'Hail Hail the Celts are here'

 

so when scottish fans sing it in england you have a problem with it surely?


surely you must have been * raging when they were singing at the emirates?

 

Good Man lennon, nail on the head.

 

its anti British, FACT.

outright hypocrisy to be against rebels and defend this!

let the people sing.

 

is that how you think we should choose our songbook?,,, based on what R*ngers find offensive or not.

 

But those songs aren't offensive to anyone. The IRA songs are. That's the difference. You could sing the theme to Scooby-Doo, for all I care. The reality is that those songs are offensive to some, and for good reason. As much as I see people on this board write that the marching of British troops is an affront, etc, I can also see why someone who had friends and family killed in IRA violence would be highly offended by the seeming support. I know not all IRA are villains, but they weren't (and aren't) all angels, either. Many innocent people have died due to both sides, so let's just leave that away from Celtic.

 

Good.

IRA songs don't help the club and will make ignorant people down south adopt the "he brings it on himself" attitude on Lennon, as they will think he has ties with a terrorist organisation.

I'm not saying I personally believe they are terrorists. (I'm not going to give my opinion as i feel this subject just causes divideds in the Celtic fans) Its just most English people and even Scottish people will be under the impression that the IRA is a terrorist organisation.

Please, please don't sing them at Celtic games, if you want to just do it on your own time