Lennon Calls For An End To Offensive Chanting

independence and being a republic are not the same thing. Remember the British crown was formed by the Scottish king James VI inheriting England when Elizabeth died heirless. James was from an ancient line of Scottish kings going back into Gaelic kingdom of Alba Its basically our crown over England even if it doesnt seem that way. So, if Scotland is to have a royal family (which I dont particularly want BTW) then the fact is they are it. You do know that Scotland and England are still separate kingdoms legally and have never been merged. They are in a union under one crown but remember that that crown was founded by a Scottish king and while it may be looked upon as British it is wrong to say it is specifically English.

 

Splitting hairs? You really have no clue do you Radup?

Listen to any speech by many a Sinn Fein councillor..."The war is now a political war!"

You are really starting to * me off!

CELTIC FC HAVE NOT MADE IT CLEAR THAT REBEL SONGS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I've already been here,not going to contribute any more to an endless argument.Nor do I have to,others are arguing a great case.

Let the people sing.

 

Look Gunt....I could go into the semantics of this all night, but I'm not taking this off topic so....

At the end of the day, ENGLISH monarchy still have over-ruling power in the UK.

Her MAJESTY'S SERVICES, inculding those of the Policy Enforcement Officers (AKA the Police Force), are enforcing their policies upon the people under the geise of 'law'.

Until Scotland has a leader that is not of English monarchy, she will never be independent....as much as you or any other would wish.

 

Radup is trolling. We shouldn't feed him.

 

Certainly,he just left a replica post in the Bigotry and Bombs programme from tonight thread.

 

Says it all doesn't it.

 

nope your wrong "political war" is rarely if ever mentioned anymore in any political speeches given by sinn fein nowadays. 10 years ago yes but not any longer.

we'll have to agree to differ on the fact that Celtic FC have made it abundantly clear that rebel songs are not welcome at celtic park any longer because they tarnish the reputation of the clubs good name.

I'm sure you and others will be left in no doubt whatsoever that this is the case very shortly indeed. you wont have long to wait.

 

No they haven't.

 

Its not semantics. Just inconvenient facts for people who see everything in black and white. The crown of Britain was established by a Scottish king voluntarily when he inherited the English throne. He was James VI of Scotland and James I of Britain. The monarchy is a very peripheral issue in Scottish independence. In an independent Scotland the Queen would be separately the Queen of England and Wales and the Queen of Scotland. The crucial thing is the union would be gone and their would not be a crown of Britain as a single entity.

I think people get way too hung up on symbols and history. The important thing is power would reside with Scottish parliament and therefore the Scottish people. To deny us that simply because of symbolic stuff would be madness. Bottom line is we have to win a majority of people who range from socialists to fairly conservative people with Lady Diana mugs in the cupboard etc because that is what nations are made up of. Not wee groups of idealists taking stances which ensure they will never win power.

 

Absolute nonsense....a fair amount of Sinn fein speakers, coucillors, representatives who attend commemorations etc on behalf of SF, will use this term....and also ex-IRA SInn Fein members have used this term...so I'm afraid you're wrong.

No we don't have to agree to differ because they HAVE NOT! They DO NOT tarnish the good name either...that is an absolute constructed myth.

I concur the PIRA chants are too much, and should be left at the door...that being slaughtered by media I could live with....nothing else!

We wont have long to wait? Why...what else do you know that we don't.

Answer me this, and try and answer truthful...have you never joined in with a Reb tune at Parkhead? And i'm not talking about an IRA chant.......

 

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A wee video to the person on this thread last night who said we support "terrorists who blew up children"

When i sing Irish rebel songs its in support of EVERYONE who fought for Irish Freedom against this tyrannical army.

Dont believe what you read in the notoriously one sided British media

Let the people sing!!!

 

during the war i sung the rebs at most games. that's in the past now because the war is over.

we live in different times now and there's nothing wrong with singing irish songs etc at the games just not the rebs. this is 21st century scotland we live in and we all have a duty to represent the club in a appropriate manner that will encourage inclusivity as neil lennon has clearly stated.

that means stop singing the rebs at the games. keep them for the pubs. there will be more specific instruction by the club in the forthcoming weeks and months that will make that clear to those who seem intent on dragging the club into the gutter alongside with the huns.

 

so who feels excluded at the moment?just dont get your argument

 

Has the morals and values of Celtic F.C changed since the late Seventies to the late-90's? Was it ok then to sing rebs, but is not now?

Wether you sung them when the war was on or not....by all accounts of your posts that makes you a hypocrite.

And once again...Lennon HAS NOTmade clear Rebs are banned!

 

So just because something is in the past we should forget it?

 

Don't think so these rebel songs will be sung at CP and there is nothing wrong with it. People need stop trying to change long held traditions that only upset bigots and the ignorant. We have all agreed that IRA chanting should stop but that really only went on at tynecastle, so why are people on here trying stir it talking nonsense?

 

during the war it was natural enough to sing the rebs. volunteers were being killed and tensions were running very high. the war is over and it's time for peace. singing reb songs at football games just make us look as backward as the huns. keep them for the pub. there are plenty of other irish songs that can be sung like let the people sing and the fields etc

but if you want to drag us down to the huns level that's your business. i think lenny has made it clear enough and like i said you will be left in no doubt whatsoever what the club thinks about it in the coming weeks and months.

 

no but there's a time and place for everything. 21st century scotland football grounds is no place for the rebs. keep them for the pubs, parties and the marches

 

aye the fields isnt a rebel song is it?you really are a muppet