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Lawwell & Strachan about transfers

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by ChristianH, Aug 2, 2008.

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  1. Rosleabhoy

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    Yeah i know what you mean but i dont think celtic are holding back in any way. i think both clubs will do everything they can to compete and win the league.
     
  2. ellboy

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    Bear mate I replied to this entire post earlier but for some reason it did not apear on thread.:31: I will try again.:84:

    Maybe you’re right that he was generalising about the situation as a whole, however that was not how it came across to me.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    Regards to pre-season you are correct it is wrong to judge too harshly and as you also correctly pointed out the players are not 100% committed and don’t want to pick up silly knocks. IMO though that goes for both sides it just so happens it is Celtic who have looked inept not the other sides.<o:p></o:p>
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    Before the game against Spurs WGS stated that we are fit, preparation has gone well and these games were all about fine tuning for the CPL. After the game that statement did not fill me with great encouragement. As if he truly believes that to be true then it does not bode well for any potential new quality signings or even a much needed change of tactics for Europe IMO. The fact is, we are witnessing the same bunch of players playing to the same instructions. Inevitably this will mean the same old same old of winning SPL games unconvincingly and receiving lessons away from home in Europe.<o:p></o:p>
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    I do feel it would be a slap in the face, as it has been intimated on many occasions by Celtic over the last 4 or 5 seasons that we are looking to strengthen the team. However all we do is buy mediocre players for mediocre money and see little or no improvement. We need to change our strategy and instead of buying quantity our budget should be spent on a shortlist of quality players. This summer more than any other was our opportunity to do just that and as a fan, I for one expected it, however thus far we have failed to bring in anyone of note and that has been very disappointing.<o:p></o:p>
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    I really do believe that as fans we are being short changed, we back the club with everything we have and without us Celtic’s finances would be nowhere near as healthy. IMO it is long over due for Celtic to show the ambition they would have the fans believe they have.<o:p></o:p>
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    Bear I accept that we are not going to buy players at over inflated prices and I also accept that we are dealing in a restricted market place. However to me the majority of European clubs are in that market as well and only a small percentage of clubs deal at the highest level. My opinion is that Celtic should be in the 2nd or 3rd tier of clubs in terms of transfer activity. However we are currently not even showing those levels of ambition. In fact I would be hard pressed to show you a 2<SUP>nd</SUP> or 3<SUP>rd</SUP> tier club that has spent less than us up to this point. A case in point for our lack of ambition, for example Tamas, if that story is to be believed then we have offered him a poultry wage of 14 k. This to me is showing limited ambition. As if Tamas was or is a top target he should have been secured long ago. <o:p></o:p>
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    My own view of this particular player gets more and more negative by the day as if he was rated then surely a club more ambitious than ourselves would have snapped him up by now. Do you not think?

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    First paragraph is one of my fears also. I also agree with both of these paragraph´s my mindset is very similar.

    The only difference being is that I have already reached this point. I don’t believe we need to wait till next summer to spend decent money on quality players. From my point of view we have gained substantial monies from our European exploits and now is the time to put some of that financial gain back out on to the pitch. Comments from Lawwell last summer was that WGS did not spend his entire budget. My question now is where is that money, coupled with the money made available this summer.<o:p></o:p>
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    IMO we should be spending a considerable amount for our standards, perhaps anywhere from 10-15 million.<o:p></o:p>
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    Can I ask you Bear, are you Happy with our transfer activities?<o:p></o:p>
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  3. Quiet Assassin

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  4. ellboy

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  5. Quiet Assassin

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    I edited my original post to answer that question but don't think you seen it...anyway, here's the reply.

    In a nutshell, no. But I'm as fickle as the next fan in that I want great players at the club. I do agree with you in that last year's excess should have been made available to Strachan and hopefully it has and in the next few weeks he'll surprise us all. We've been notoriously secretive about our dealings in recent years and I commend Lawell for that as when the papers get a sniff of something, all sorts of * starts doing the rounds and more often than not none of it is good!

    I'm quite happy to sit and wait to see what will transpire at the end of the month and then will pass judgement on how we performed with transfers.
     
  6. ellboy

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    Yeh I did miss it so thanks for re-posting your response. I agree with this post as I also feel that Lawwell has done a terrific job keeping our targets secretive. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    I have been very quiet thus far as I am also happy to wait and see what transpires in terms of transfers. The reason for my comments at this time was just in direct response to WGS´s negative outlook on transfers in general. They seemed to me to be a kind of get out of jail card, for our inactivity within the market and IMO spun a somewhat negative and patronising slant towards the players and fans alike..<o:p></o:p>
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    As I said in an earlier post here’s hoping we see some quality players before this window closes and hopefully as usual WGS´s recent comments should not be taken too literally.<o:p></o:p>
     
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  7. Bhoy Brian

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    To be fair its ok saying 4 million players but u add the wages in and its a lot more . Scot brown cost around 6/7 million all in and if you go for a 4 mill player from the epl for instance then they are on like 40k pw so while as a fan yes id love to see all the best players but lets be honest when you look at the whole package and the possible cost its no wonder we take a while . As for all his signing being pish well all managers have good and bad and as in the of case we all thought he would be a star . MON had a few bad signings too and he was especially guilty at times of playing certain players even when they didnt merit a place
     
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    Great Post :50: alot of your posts are like that . Strachans comments basically admitted defeat and degraded our players a bit and he basically says we will have to compete like this in the CL, well how are we going to do that if the teams are better than Spurs ? Dont think Strachan can motevate the players the way previous have done and thats nothing to do with the pre season just on a whole
     
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  9. ChristianH

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    Gordon Strachan laments lack of resources | Scotland - Times Online

    “Yes, our resources are a bit limited at the moment,” Strachan said. “That’s why we couldn’t fill the bench tonight. That’s how short we were. We’re trying to sign players and, believe me, Peter is very active at the moment. From the point of view of the players we have, I just hope that we can get a few more in.”

    Sounds good enough for me.
     
  10. lauderbhoy

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    :shamrock:The Huns may have spent millions on what they laughingly think are good players but look at the pure joy they served up to us tonight...out of Europe already !! We should be looking to strengthen weak areas of the team, a couple of quality left backs for a start as it looks like Naylor is edging towards the door. Has anyone else noticed that the media is quoting strachan as looking at buying in midfielders, I thought we were strong in those positions with Aiden, Naka & Hinge & Brackett, we still have Brown/ Sno & Donati as back up, apart from Big Mick we need more quality full backs where we have no depth of squad :celt_2:
     
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  11. patto

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    Some of the negative posts on here are ridiculous.

    "WGS can't motivate his players"

    How do you know? do you go in the dressing room?

    You need to give more respect to the man whos given us 3 in a row. ALL clubs have bad signings but hes had more signings turn out good than bad.

    We have by far the best squad in the SPL regardless who rangers have signed. We can beat anyone at home with these players, If we played Barcelona on the form in the last 7 games we wouldn't have lost. Unless your blind pre-season has been getting super fit and practicing new tactics to pick up points away from home in Europe. This has been the best summer in ages so stop whining.

    Hail Hail