Kris Commons

Did I say that?? No.

Commons playing on the right of Johansen left us wide open. All game. I would expect Aberdeen or a Dundee United - or indeed any team with a competent manager to take full advantage of that. Can't play the 2 of them in an advanced position or we will be open.

 

I'm sorry but I have to pick this apart. Commons playing on the right occasional switching with Stefan opened up the door for Matthews to attack. We looked so much better going forward with Kris in there.

Regarding us looking open, come on have we not looked open and easy to hit on the counter in EVERY match this season. Be honest.

 

Don't see it. We've been open as a hoookers legs all season and Commons playing the last two matches has actually been better and resulted in two clean sheets. Funny that.

 

I would imagine IF RD has said nope he will not feature in the team often/regularly then Pete is not going to offer a 2 year deal, however if RD says yes he is an important part of my plans and will certainly start/feature regularly then it would be a 2 year deal.
All i have heard (from what I have read) is its about the length of contract on offer thats causing the problem and nothing about the wages being a problem so ...
As I said, how often when fit has Commons started since the start of the season ? RD does not rate him/plan on using him, thats his choice but lets not blame the board for everything

 

If our manager is advising against a 2 year deal then we are in big trouble.

 

I still can't get my head round how we are actually letting him go... Total madness

 

Indeed. I hope Deila is not a scatterbrain.

My estimations of him will fall drastically if he is the one behind this

 

It really is. Just so that Lawwell can show who's boss.

 

I refuse to believe a football man condoning this. There is no way his judgement is that poor.

 

Not necessarily , but will have a better idea by the end of the month.

 

Away in Zagreb we got absolutely butchered on the break. Commons was playing that night. Away in Legia likewise. It's very easy to pick and choose a few select games to suit your argument mate. In terms of domestic fixtures, then away at Dundee earlier in the season is a 3rd, where we were overrun again that day, and should have really lost the game.

I think another problem is that when Commons plays in the number 10 role, and Johansen plays deeper than he has been recently, we effectively end up with 1 central midfielder, because Johansen likes to go pressing. That is one of Johansen's strengths. If he does that from the number 10 role, it doesn't cause us a big problem if we have Brown and Bitton behind him, because both are pretty disciplined players, and Johansen is capable of getting back in and helping.

 

Away at Legia he was playing as a lone striker. In a game we had ten men. Dundee and Zagreb we had extremely weakened teams out.

See the full fact we beat the clean sheet record with Commons on the pitch last year, shows that having a CAM whose not exactly Van Dijk isn't much of a problem. Do you judge our attacking midfielders but how good defensively they are?

 

He didn't start the game as a lone striker. We didn't have an extremely weakened team out against Zagreb. Dundee I will give you, we had a fair few players out, but is that still any excuse for being completely overrun?

It depends on what his role is in the team. If like last season, we were looking for an attacking midfielder that had no defensive duties whatsoever, then I would have Commons in the team. However, this season, it would appear that our manager wants players who can go forward, and also get back, something which he has spoken about quite a lot in his interviews, when talking about individual performances. For that reason, Johansen is the better option for me. In Europe it is vital for us, we aren't good enough to have a luxury player so to speak, something which I think Commons is.

 

Why is it either Johansen or Commons? Why not both?

 

Going to go round in circles here. As I said last week, I wouldn't be all that fussed seeing Commons play in a wide role, with Johansen remaining in the position which has seen him become arguably our best player, after a pretty shocking first few months of the season. However, I think it's pretty clear what type of winger Deila wants, and once he is allowed to bring in his own players, to play to his preferred system, then I don't see Commons fitting into the team. If that is the case, then I don't see any point really in offering him the 2 year deal he supposedly is after. I would happily see him stay until the end of the season though.

 

Do you not think a midfielder who can score as much as he does and set up as much as he does is an asset to even the squad? I can't get my head around that.

We have useless * like Boerrigter hanging about on big wages and it's Commons we go for to get to *?

 

Who is going to buy Boerrigter though? I would be all for getting rid of guys like that before Commons, but sadly, we might be stuck with him until his contract is up. You have to look at the previous manager there, another point that was being discussed on here last week. We have done well to get guys like Pukki & Balde away on loan as well.

 

Commons might score an extra goal every couple of games but with him in the team we are worse defensively. What good is a goal every two games if we are conceding a goal or two extra every game??

Boerrigter is a waste of wages and if anybody was willing to take him im sure he would be away. But he is only on 7000/8000 a week compared to commons 25000+ and this new contract he wants more?! what the point in paying a player more than anybody else in the team when he isnt even in the strongest 11

 

Yeah i noticed it at the Hamilton game also ...so did the other 30 scouts lol

To little to late .

 

What? Please show me when we've ever conceded a goal or two a game when Commons is playing?

Have we done that the last two games? Where we've looked far more solid as a unit by the way.

Jesus *, the arguments in here Walter Smith would be proud of. Who cares about scoring goals if we have 11 people who'll chase the baw and defend. * bollocks, get the ball in the * net.

Boerrigters on far more than that and Commons far less. Blerrigter was signed as a Champions League player, from a top club. Commons as a £300k Championship journeyman whose only other option was Rangers.