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Kris Commons

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by z1c0, Apr 28, 2014.

Discuss Kris Commons in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Liam Scales

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    Because he has had a huge influence in his time here and even just now, when he rarely starts he's our 3rd top scorer and assister.

    Goals and creativity are a huge loss.
     
  2. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    Aye but you'd think he was starting every game and get the MOTM award every game or two. Total overreaction.

    Talking as if selling him will 'derail' the season. Crazy.
     
  3. Liam Scales

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    Nah, it's perfectly understandable. Current POTY who puts the ball in the net as much as he does? It's understandable.

    Similar to Scott McDonald under Mowbray when he was going. Was obvious to everyone he'd be a huge loss despite not starting most games that season.
     
  4. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    I see your point but I just think it's an overreaction. Fair enough we'll miss him somewhat because, as much as I don't like him, he can always pop up with a goal. But it's not as if we don't have any options in his position.

    Johansen has been one of our better players this season and Stokes has been adding a lot. We won't miss him as much as the media would have us believe.
     
  5. Liam Scales

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    I think when we've been struggling to finish our chances as much as we have, not having a midfielder capable of 32 goals in a season there, we will miss it. We've missed it when he's not been on the pitch this season.

    Johansen brings something Commons doesn't but he also is nowhere near his threat on the opposition goal, which is why Commons had set up more goals and scored more goals than him this season even without playing as many games as Johansen.
     
  6. PaddyBhoy

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    Think it's crazy how quickly people have forgotten Commons' contribution to the team in his time here.
     
  7. Liam Scales

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    I honestly think people expect him to be Messi like for us and are dissapointed when he's not.
     
  8. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    Nobody has forgotten it. We just see him for what he is, a bang average player who's had a couple of freak seasons.

    Do people not see that when he plays he slows everything down, shoots from ridiculous angles and struggles to control the ball most of the time.

    Johansen is a better player than him.
     
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    Messi was finished in some peoples eyes not long ago:56:
     
  10. Liam Scales

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    It's not a freak season if he's done it 3 out of 4 though is it? And even at his absolute worst he was still the most creative player in the team, finishing the season having set up the most goals for us.

    Johansen may be a better player but he's nowhere near the threat that Commons is.
     
  11. z1c0

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    He's played well twice this season. He was absolutely atrocious at the start of the season, every time the ball would be played into him his first touch would go straight to an opposition player or he would take so long to get it under control and turn there would be 10 players behind the ball.

    Under Ronny all that's expected of him is to play the ball faster and not slow things down as much, But Commons likes to play the game at his own pace and that doesn't suit a high pressing counter attacking team we need everyone to be chasing in packs and attacking quickly in numbers.

    I do believe though that he is a really talented player but he's just not suited to our style. There is no denying he has a knack of getting into the right positions and can score goals out of nothing, However the only place for him in my team would be an impact sub coming on to play right wing as he is no where near as good as Johansen in that number 10 position.
     
  12. z1c0

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    Commons may have more assists but the if you where to count the sitters we've missed that Johansen's created then Commons wouldn't be near him, Johansen is far more creative.
     
  13. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    His first season (half season) and last season are the ones I'm talking about.
    He's never going to score 30 odd goals again in a season, he only did that because he was playing in a more advanced position than usual before none of our strikers were scoring.

    Johansen is more of a team player though. Commons will shoot 9 times out of 10.

    Anyway, not going to go on about it any further. I just don't like him at all.
     
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    So he's scored 30 goals twice, 20 once and his actual freak season was when he scored 1. Do you not think the 1 goal is the odd season out there rather than that being the normal and the other 3 being freak seasons?

    If he shot 9 times out of 10 then he wouldn't set up as many goals as he does. It's not a choice between Johansen and Commons anyway. They're perfectly capable of playing in the same team.

    Infact, we're much better when they're both in the same team.
     
  15. Liam Scales

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    Not sure of that but even so, can you see Johansen contributing towards 46 goals this season, like Commons did last season?
     
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    For a player who won the awards he did last season, scored the goals and got the assists, it baffles me that our fans doubt commons ability and question his place in the first team, especially given that none of our attacking players have exactly set the heather alight so far this season.

    This idea that he isnt fast enough- well he didnt lose a whole lot of pace from last year, so why is his lack of pace an issue now?

    Commons is still the closest thing to a talisman that we have. and i dare say he has the best shot that we have also.
     
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    Football is a very easy game. Stick a ball in a net. Put the ball on a plate for someone else to put it in the net.

    Last year, Commons scored a goal or an assist every 83 minutes.

    Johansen might be the better "specimen" but he won't create or he won't score anywhere near as much as Commons.
     
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    What the anti Commons posters want is workers instead of footballers. There is nothing wrong with that, they are entitled to their opinion. I dont like how they are rewriting history and downplaying his past contributions and his current value though.
     
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    To be honest there is no Commons dilemma,he will be of and the Ronny revolution will continue to drag Celtic into the 21st century.
     
  20. Liam Scales

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    I hope the Ronny Revolution includes scoring goals though. That'll be a bonus.