Ki

Ki would bring in a big transfer fee because of his nationality, simple as that. Asia is the largest untapped market left for football clubs to exploit and the best way to exploit markets is to get players from those areas. Ki isn't good enough for a top team but plenty of top teams would be willing to buy him to sell some kits in Korea.

 

because they both play the same position and because of this will be battling for a place in the side.

 

Neither of those are good sources mate, last week someone posted a bleacher report page from back when we were losing the league that was titled something to the effect of "why rangers will demolish celtic" and gave 10 reasons, one of which was "samaras is *".

Ki- player wanted by clubs to move shirts
ledley= player wanted by clubs to win championships
As for the Nakamura statement, currently naka is well past his best so ki might be better than him but in terms of how good they were for us naka wins in a cakewalk.

 

So basically Asian players do not have much talent and are only bought by European clubs to sell jerseys in Asia.

 

So would the award of Korean player of the year count as proof of his ability.

 

you say the Ledley is rated by forum posters while Ki is rated by coaches and then you go and post two articles written by random * who are no more knowledgeable than you or me. Also his positon on those lists wouldn't fill me with confidence ali al habsi is fifth on both of those lists and he is a pretty poor goalkeeper.

 

I never said that, there certaintly are talented Asian players like Naka but they aren't all that numerous. Liverpool are a prime example of a team who might buy Ki but they wouldn't be doing it because of his footballing ability they would be doing so to expand their brand and make more money in Asia
http://www.bangthebook.com/news/2011/04/02/liverpool-urged-to-buy-asian-players-by-sponsor/

 

I haven't seen him play for korea but if he won any awards for them i would assume they had a down year. I know lee chung yong was hurt this season and I think ji sung park may have been aswell. Those are the only two koreans I really rate so that might explain why ki was able to win the award or maybe hes just been sensational for his national team and not been able to show it for us much like samaras a couple of years ago.

 

Not in a million years is Ki better than Nakamura.

 

So you have inside information on Liverpools intentions. If Ki's marketing value is such that teams will pay a large fee for him then surely we should keep him as he will earn us a fortune.

 

Still fully believe Ki can cope in a normal 4-4-2, against any team in this league. He proved that against Rangers, even when we were down to ten. It's what role to play him in because his passing is excellent and he can get goals from midfield.

 

Like Samaras a change of role and team tactics may give Ki the chance to show what he can do for us.

 

I wouldn't call the article I posted inside information, Liverpool have made their intentions to expand their profile in Asia very clear. I posted that article because it shows the mentality that surrounds football these days, money making comes first. Asia is the largest untapped market for football clubs and therefore asian players are worth more than a European player with similar skills. I believe that Ki probably earns us a decent amount of money but I personally would rather win championships than sell shirts.

 

We have too many CM's of good but similar quality and our striking pair play too well together to risk breaking them up by playing a 4-5-1 with 2 CM's :/

 

In Europe a three man midfield is fine but in Scotland it is simply to defensive against 90% of the teams we will play, we must play two strikers in Scotland which means we have to play two central mids. Ki isn't cut out for a two man midfield and therefore will never cut it at celtic. The situation with Samaras is completely different, he switched positions from a striker to a winger, we didn't change formations to accomodate him.

 

Ki managed fine playing for Korea in the Asian Cup in a 442 system. While this may not be the standard of the Euro Champs it surely must surpass SPL level.

 

sometimes players simply don't fit a certain league and Ki is a prime example of this, he isn't suited to the rough and tumble of the SPL. He probalby could play in a 442 system in a less physically demanding league but in the spl he has been found out for a lack of pace and workrate

 

Has he lacked pace and work rate in his many MOTM performances for us? Just because he is not an all action midfielder does not mean he lacks pace.

Lubo managed in the physically demanding SPL because the team played to his strengths.

Like Samaras and Brown before him Ki has now become the scapegoat of choice on this forum.

 

Ki certaintly does lack pace, he is the slowest central midfielder on our books. His workrate is also horrendous, anyone with eyes can see it so I'm a bit baffled that you can't. I also can't remember "many" MOTM performances from him. One or two in his time here maybe but not many.

Others have compared Ki and Lubo in the past but the comparison makes no sense, Lubo played out wide where you can afford to play lightweight players. Ki plays centrally where you miust have decent workrate.

 

credit were credit due, it is unfair and unjust on Ki to say he only because of the other two were out injured, he has won young asian player along with player of the year simply because he was worthy of it and has been a mainstay for the national team since the 2008 Olympics.

when Ki is given a run of games he does very well for us and scores goals when he is taken out and used sparingly like Sammy used to their game suffers.

i'm not saying he should start every game above the likes of Ledley, Vic, Kayal or Brown but when he does get the chance to have a solid run in the team he does not disappoint