just to put it out there

@Daibhi

Who exactly is missing out due to this archaic, discriminatory Catholic education?

As far as I can tell most people are fairly happy with the situation.

I don't see Bill McWilliamson's son growing any more tolerant of people if there is a few more Catholics in his class.

 

I get what you're saying here and I agree. If the school is receiving tax payer cash, it needs to accept all tax payers regardless of their religious beliefs. If a Catholic school wants to fund itself entirely from a private source (the Vatican maybe?) then it can decide who it lets in. Although it would be a terrible thing in my opinion.

As an aside, in a way there is some discrimination based on income with regard to schools. A good school will often push up the house prices in its area, meaning only those with more cash can move into the catchment area and get their kid into a better school.

 

If you replace "money in the bank" with "Baptismal certificate" then yes, it happens.

In areas where the schooling is good and demand for places is high? Anyone who doesn't have a Baptismal certificate, basically.

What?

Of course other factors outwith our control will come into play, but I just feel that those factors we can control, such as admission policies, should be set up as fairly as possible.

Discrimination, be it based on *, religion or race is unacceptable.

Or at least that's what I hear.

 

Should other schools not be trying to emulate them rather than strip away at what they are doing right?

 

You think other schools should be implementing discriminatory policies as well?

 

You have yet to prove this widespread discrimination outwith an isolated incident, not too dissimilar to someone missing out due to catchment problems.

Not everyone gets the first school they apply for.

 

There's nothing to prove! Catholic schools accept children initially based on them providing a Baptismal certificate and in some cases a recommendation from a priest.

Once those children who fit that criteria are catered for they then accept "lesser students", which is those who haven't been Baptised.

Are you telling me this isn't how it works?

 

I went to Catholic schools and id have my weans go to them as well probably as they are better schools.

I also don't think it really matters that they are Catholic schools either, it's only a name. I am Catholic and went to them and couldnt tell you anything about Catholics.

 

To those protective of catholic schools? What is it about them that you so revere?

Surely if you are a socialist/catholic/Celtic fan, you would want the best education for all the children of Scotland, not just your own? Take out the religion, and copy what it is that they are doing and make it the state norm?

Any problems with that?

 

You just can't help yourself.

 

No i can mate, i have a point of view, and it differs from that of others, but is the same as many others too, why should i not be involved?

Why dont you answer the questions i posed instead of getting personal?

PS. Bigotry isnt the preserve of religious intolerance, but also covers political intolerance.

 

One hundred years of Unionist Govt in Northern Ireland gave us State sponsored discrimination in housing, employment, policing, electoral process. In the private sector Banks and Building Societies were just as bad. With NO redress.

In fact the only field in which Catholics had a fair go was in education - because it was faith based and we ran it.

Maybe Im wrong but I tend to think the unionists/ loyalists would have tried to keep the Croppies down in the Schools too if they had had the power.

For most of the last century it was the same or similar situation in Scotland and England too but less blatant.

As a working class kid educated in an RC boys school in the UK in the 60s, Im grateful. Never taught to hate but taught to never hide either.

 

What is to stop others copying the things that makes these schools successful ? As has been said numerous times in this thread it is not just Catholic children that go to these schools so your protecting 'your own' argument holds no water. Only one person coming across as being intolerant here pal.

 

What makes a Catholic school better than the other schools? If it cannot be replicate by the state then perhaps Catholics make better students and are more intelligent:smiley-laughing002:

Edit:Maybe its that many of the RCs are decedent of the Irish who are obviously more intelligent than their Anglo Saxon counterparts

 

See this is when you show yourself up to be a totally sly little *, and a bigot.

You've already been told Catholic schools are not just for Catholics, but don't let that stop ye.

*.

 

Don't bother with mgm anything political or religious and he's like a pit bull chewing a wasp

 

Up the * Education System.


http://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/new...thern-ireland-schools-at-alevel-34679570.html

 

Troubled west Belfast secondary De La Salle performed well, coming 10th of the non-grammars with a pass rate of 66.7%, up 50 places from 115th the previous year.

The author of that piece clearly did not attend a Catholic school:smiley-laughing002:

 

Rubbish. Have you read evevryone else's post?

I dont believe they are more successful for any other reason than they have a degree more discipline due to the respect or fear instilled in many of them, by their parents respect and fear of the catholic church.

The teachers are not more qualified, and the students are no more able or unable to learn, it is purely down to a shade more discipline due to religion.

I am not unaware of the benefits to society in general where religion has a hold, including when teaching children. In many areas of society , discipline has broken down, society is broken, but where religions have a hold, this is less likely.