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Johan Mjallby

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by Dubsbhoy, Jun 3, 2004.

Discuss Johan Mjallby in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Sonny Crockett

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  2. leicceltmurph67

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    mabe your right about forster.....but the main point is lenny has overall responsibility...yes the coaches are responsible for bad results ..but lenny brought his own coaching staff in.....the buck stops with lenny and he is,nt doing a lot to distance himself from players who are constantly under-acheiving...the coaches can report on training ..but in the end the manager picks those players based on what he see,s and hears ...this is the norm ..so i think its time for a change if lennys still seven points behind come the half-way stage of the season ..if only to give a new man the pre-season to work and assess his squad.....and ammass an army of agent contacts..to sell on his dud,s
     
  3. CelticBhoyDavid

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    But it is the SAME coaching staff with the SAME players, that is my point. If it's to do with zonal marking then let's hope that the coaching staff get rid of it because it doesn't work for set pieces but other than that we are basing it all on two matches at most in the league - the St Johnstone game and the huns.

    Their work is forgotten about when we hit Motherwell 4-0, batter United 5-1, and don't lose any other goals against the likes of St Mirren, Aberdeen and Hibs but as soon as we have a bad half against Hun FC we have an unreliable defence.

    You think the Arsenal coaches and players are suddenly all * because they shipped 8 goals against Man Utd? It doesn't take one match to make a teams season.
     
  4. fiferbhoy

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    Who said that ALL celtic players were *? Not me, I'm slatting the defence here, don't put words in my mouth now.
    You also forgot Sion, home and away, we have a bad defence against the better sides, yes, and Wilson and bard and bringing feckin loovens back is Lennys call, and not spending money on the glaringly obvious weakness of the team in preseason.
    The Arsenal one is funny, they also shipped four against Blackburn.
    As for one game not making a teams season, well, it can ruin one though eh? Inverness ring any bells, and not just last season.
     
  5. CelticBhoyDavid

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    I may be wrong on this one as I may be mixing this up with reality and my FM game I have going :52::56:

    I just think though Wilson could have been a better player if he wasn't hampered with so many injuries in about is first 2 or 3 years with us. Can only coach a player so much when they are out with injury.

    To me the bottom line is coaching works and helps beacuse all you have to do is look at the likes of Petta, Petrov & Sutton just to name three. Sutton was classed so eloquently by a lot of people outside Celtic as '*" (mainly the huns :56:). Petta wasn't getting anywhere under the Barnes mess and neither was Petrov and I think both were on the verge of leaving before Marton O'Neill and his coaching staff came in. They completely turned them around. Remember Petta tying Prickson in knots in the Demolition Derby? :50: And Petrov and Sutton scoring in that match as well. To me, all to do with management and coaching.

    At that time, player for player, whether they were INDIVIDUALLY better than some of what we have now is not the focus, and same goes for Lennon's staff against O'Neill's staff. Coaching is what helped those players improve individually AND as a team.
     
  6. CelticBhoyDavid

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    I never said that you said ALL Celtic players were * :97: Where does it say that I did so don't go looking for things that I never said either.

    I'm highlighting the fact that we've had the same players, including defence, for these matches. May not have been playing together all the time with the same pairings but they are still the same bunch of players.

    As for Sion it IS the same defence as well yes, and seeing as you're "slating" the defence, how many goals did we ship in the home game? The defences matter wasn't helped by Desperate Dan getting sent off after just 42 seconds in the away match. Any defence would have struggled for 89 minutes with a man down and that would have knocked the whole game plan out the water. THAT was the player and nothing to do with coaching either because I'm sure they don't train/coach a player to get sent off.

    Why is the Arsenal one funny? They shipped 4 against Blackburn yeh, but that's TWO games they have played. One against a class Man Utd team and one against Blackburn. I suppose Chelsea have * coaching as well because their defence got pumped by Man Utd as well by letting in 3 goals.

    Inverness was towards the end of last season - not only the 7th one into it.
     
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    Let you off about Wilson then ha ha:56:
    Nobody is disputing that good coaches can help a player become better, all i'm saying is that you've gotta be a bit of a player in the first place, comprende:50:

    As for the players you'd mentioned, Sutton two seasons prior to coming here was part of sas the most deadly duo in English football, then after having 1 nightmare season at Chelsea came here, not down playing the role of the coaching but he had a * given talent that was just needing an arm put round him and to be made to feel wanted for it to shine imo
     
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    You asked me did I think because Arsenal lost 8 against utd. did I think ALL ARSENAL TEAM AND COACHING STAFF WERE *, you see my point?

    Look this is becoming boring as *, yeah same old defence and same coaches and six points worse off than we were last year at the same time, and you've gotten the total wrong end of the stick!!!!

    All I've ever said was Dolph was not the main *' culprit as he can only coach what hand he's dealt, and to me that's the defence, who imo are not any good ffs, again lol
     
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    Cannot possibly blame all the troubles on on person, or two (lenny,dolph) Our whole defence costed about 2-3M you dont get anything for that money these days, the board simply need to spend some of the * money us supporters pump into the club,
     
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    I would jump outta the window laughing. :56:
     
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    Rumour has it that Scott Boyd was momentarily distracted by the hulking frame of Mjallby, aka Drago, in the dugout tonight and that's what caused him to inadvertently turn the ball into his own net.
     
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    After today's performance I'm starting to lose patience here. I know they don't have a lot to work with in terms of players but I really think our coaching staff has to be doing a better job with the defense and obviously that has to fall at the feet of big Johan. I haven't been in favor of the board mandating an experienced head to help out Lenny but I think the manager may have to take it upon himself to bring someone in to help sort out the back line. We're in a league where we're always going to be on the front foot so all we need is a halfway competent back line and we haven't seen that for years. It'd be a tough decision for Lenny to go against his mate but I think it has to be done for the good of the team. I think the fact that noone has confidence in our defense is really hurting the team going forward as we seem unable to commit to attacks for fear of any loss of possession becoming a goal against. I don't know who the answer is but I hope Lenny is at least considering this as a possibility.
     
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    I dont know how many times I have said this but ill say it again.

    Mjallby isnt the defensive coach. He is the Assistant Manager. Even as a player he wasnt a natural cb, he was a cm.
     
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    Another clean sheet again today. For all the bashing the defence gets on here and no matter how bad they seem to play, they're good at keeping the goals out, against the smaller teams anyway.
     
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    Fine, then who's coaching them? If you don't think it's Mjallby then you at least have to admit that they need some kind of guidance and they're not getting it at the moment.

    And as much as I hear the argument that we had statistically the best defense in the league last year and that we kept a clean sheet today I keep thinking that every decent opportunity they had today was from one of our * ups... Actually, thinking about it more, maybe that's the telling thing. We don't allow then to earn many opportunities sonmaybe they are well organized and the trouble is that they just aren't good players. How the * do we coach out the stupid * then? When you've got a 30+ Swedish international who has as many brainfarts during a game as Maj, how do you fix that? I don't know, we either need new players or someone else to work with them and the transfer window is shut so this is all I can think of now
     
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    We need to spend 3+ mil on a really good cb and lose Loovens, Maj and Big Jos.

    Leaves us with Good 3mil cb, Mulgrew, Wilson, O'Dea, Rogne and Toshney.
     
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    The coaching staff cant turn a pure * player into a better player, the only thing the coaching staff are getting wrong is zonal marking, as for the central defenders at our club???? Complete wastes of space the lot of them, its getting at bad in defence at celtic that charlie mulgrew is now our best centre half??? If we lose this league a will blame the manager for not building from the back, kelvin wilson wont shore up that pish at the back and a just hope we havnt * up again by not bringing in quallity:50:
     
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    That's exactly it. I mean, Charlie's done very well but I have little to no faith in any of his partners. Maj is a bombs are, Loovens and Wilson are mistake prone and Rogne's alright but never fit. I hear people talking about Toshney but i've never seen him, despite this I'd be willing to give him a game. I don't know, may have been too harsh on the coaching staff but someone needs to be castrating Loovens and Maj for the pressure they put on the team. Foster isn't much of an organizer either. We need someone to take charge of that area on the park.
     
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    I agree mate a cant believe we have 2 guys in loovens and maj they are both about 6ft odd and they cant attack a ball, they are sloppy with the ball at there feet, this should have been sorted long ago, we havnt signed a decent defender, central, since the mon days............... quite shocking to be honest