James McFadden Signed?

Shaun maloney was in no way a big feture for celtic in 02-03. i actually doubt he made 30 apperiences but if he did you can bet he started about 4 of them the rest as a sub there is no way they played the same amount of time on the park.

Anyway, not that thats relitive, as shaun maloney never played first team football untill a few seasons ago.
james mcfadden has been playing in the premiership for years so could easily have learned more than maloney did from the bench over the years.

 

* i watch a lot of spanish football, and the SPL, so i could be wrong here but has faddy not been a bench warmer for the majority of his time in the EPL. If so your point is totally mute, you learn jack * as a sub.

Also * i like faddy, i just think he's over rated, and by that i mean, he cost about 1m when he went to everton, he's played a bit part for them and suddenly he's worth 3.5m. That's bullshit. If the shoe were on the other foot we'd be lucky to get our money back.
This doesn't seem to bother some people, but it bothers me, however if faddy does sign, regardless of the terms, rest assured i'll be one of his biggest fans on this site, defo my type of player. But to get Maloney back would be absolute poetry as he has a lot more talent.

 

was on an everton board, they actually rate him higher than we do. they rate him at 5million so iontach, theres another example of us NOT over rating our players.
my points not mute, shaun maloney played alot less in the past few years than mcfadden, think of when oneil was boss. how many times maloney started a game. he had one full season, and tbh, it wasn't a full season he missed the first few months because of aidens form- then he * of to villa to park his * on the bench again.
this season: shaun maloney started 6 games 9 as a sub , time on the park: 623min.
James McFadden started 11 games, 7 as a sub - time on the park: 972min.
mcfaddens first season at everton: 25 games 1073min on the park
second season(04-05): 23 games 756min on the park
third season (05-06) 32 games played 2051min on the park.

a bit unfair to say he's learned nothing considering each season he's improved time on the park, really. everton had wayne rooney, so faddy didn't have a lot of game time when he was there.

 

gravasen is getting off the bench before he does at everton and he is our player who is not good enough what does that tell you

 

that they play in diffrent positions?
that he could be used to keep the transfer fee down?

 

can't macfadden play center mid is he only a winger

 

Mcfadden can play on either wing, up front or in behind the strikers. i.e. with one up front 5 in the middle. hes more of a flair player like naka than gravy

 

*, i don't know what else to say, you use the fact that Maloney was used as a sub for us and villa against him, yet i can't use that reasoning in faddy's case. You say oh rooney was there, so what, you have to apply the same logic in both cases or you're being hypocritical.

I do rate faddy, but is he a striker if so i prefer riordan as he's already here and will provide 30 goals a season IMO if played regular. Maybe faddy will do the same but he'll cost a lot more.
Is he a midfielder, if so i would rather Maloney as no matter what you say i've seen both and Maloney is far more talented and would likely cost less.

 

Ivry, had a look mate,
Graveson : 2 starts 6 as a sub 243min on the park.

Lubo: i have no idea how much game time maloneys had since 2003- i cant find a site that'll tell you. but apart from his one season with strach he's hardly been on the park.
Mcfadden on average has been on the park for 50mins per game.
i'm not using it against him and not mcfadden, all i've done is show you exactly how often mcfadden has played.
i'd like to see maloney's season by season break down, but i doubt its as consistant as mcfaddens.

 

He is also 24 and at the begining of his career with the best years of his footbaling life ahead and is only going to improve.

As for Gravesen he is 31 more agressive and direct also he is not going to improve to long in the tooth. For people to compare them is just silly.

 

* player

 

* i'm not dis-agreeing that he's a good player, its his value and wages i'm questioning. We either have as good or better, or can get better for less.
Maybe its priorities, i'd love to see faddy Aidan shaun and riordan in our team as i like them all.

 

how much would maloney cost? i'd love maloney back, but i doubt he'd be any cheaper than mcfadden.
he's settled in there now and said himself that he fully expects to stay at villa. i highly doubt we'd get him for a million.
wages, probs about the same shaun maybe a FEW grand less as its reported that mcfadden would be signed for 20k a week and for 3million. - thats what am going by anyway. i dont think hes worth 5million and 30k a week. thats for sure.

p.s. According to wiki (about as reliable as an old skoda)
Mcfadden, since 2000
63 (26) for motherwell
107 (10) for everton.
total: 170 (36)
maloney since 2001:
103 (26)celtic
21 0(5) villa
Total: 124(31)
no idea on maloney's game time though

i just think the amount of time mcfadden's had on the park is over looked
as he's branded a sub player

they are both great players and it faddy maybe would cost over all a wee bit more than maloney but based on experience, its justified. imo


IF they were both offerd to celtic at the same price i'd have faddy.
if faddy was this 5million 30k a week guy, then i'd pick maloney.

 

theyr both * we need better celtic better

 

lol that guy wi the shoes is back

 

They both have the kind of quality we need at the club. It would be fantastic to see them both in the Hoops.

However I agree with *. Faddy has more experiance at a higher level and is at a more advanced time in his career. So if I had to choose it would be Faddy.

 

if it was between maloney and faddy, i would choose maloney as he is mroe of a natural winger and can take free kicks. faddy is not consitent and will prob cost more IMO.

 

* i'm a bit biased when it comes to shaun as i idolised him when he was at celtic, very much the same mould as lubo, as he learned his trade from him.
I'd take Maloney if it were a straight pick, as for me i hear the word proven, Shaun did prove himself in that season and at other times outwith that.
Faddy might come and not settle for whatever reason and he's a sub for everton who i think we're better than. I know Maloney is a sub, but wouldn't you agree that he made a bad decision to play for MON again and this is the reason. MON loves to have a flair player ON HIS BENCH?

 

I agree with all of that lubo, (apart from the straight swap choice obviously)
there is a SLIGHT chance faddy wouldn't settle, but i dont see it tbh hes scottish, played in the spl and played along side alot of the celtic team with the scotland squad. i loved maloney and was absolutly gutted that he left as i rated him alot higher than aiden at the time (aiden has since picked up his crossing abilities), i would however take him back in a second. i think as a team we're better than everton but that dosn't mean we wouldn't take some of there players. imagine cahill in the hoops? diffrent players fit into diffrent sort of teams a player can be shocking for us but great for another team. like juninho, no one doubted him but he was crap for us due to how we played

 

That post is absoloutly corect. However We Shaun may not come back as the same player. As there is an argument that he is damaged goods. If you read quotes from him as just today he has said. He is questioning his own ability as to weather he can cut it in the English Premier. He doesnt sound in the best frame of mind.