If your in the British army does ....

Yeah, especially those that offer you the chance to kill or be killed. How much for your soul?

 

Aye, and what about those for the poorest to be sponsored through university, and achieve a medical degree for example. Those people aren't 'legalised terrorists, they're there to gain a degree and then complete obligatory front line medical work before returning and working for the NHS.

I agree that today's wars are fought for money, but that is a problem with society and politicians, not one for majority of the people in army.

 

Surely the fact that you recognise this negates your argument that everyone has the same choice to make regarding joining the armed foces?

If it is a deliberate policy to recruit "the poor" then surely they are under more pressure to sign up than others because the stakes are different for them and and are presented to them in a different way.

On topic, How does this, in your opinion, detract from their ability to be a fan of Celtic Football Club?

 

Yeah well when I looked it was to try and go to do medicine at uni you know to save lives. Or to be an army medic. I couldn't do it because I do not respect the union therefore the thought of fighting for the queen means I could not join. However you seem to have assumed that everyone relinquishes their soul upon joining the army?

 

Depends very much how much an individual feels his soul is worth when this oppertunity presents itself...

 

i dont think serving makes you a lesser celtic fan or a 'legalised terrorist'. what it does make you is the * or tool of terrorists

 

Bearing in mind that there are literally hundreds of thousands of working men and women who are active in industry who were educated and trained by the Armed Forces I'd say that IF there was such a policy (and I'd be interested to see a link to back your claim) then they're justified in doing that as they're giving many people an opportunity to escape poverty and the pitfalls it brings, i.e alcoholism, poor health, drug addiction etc.

Have you also considered that the vast majority of serving personnel in the armed forces are not actually dug into trenches shooting at people and that they might just be involved in many good acts? Or do you accept you're generalising?


As to whether it makes them less of a Celtic fan...I can't believe anyone with any semblance of common sense would actually agree with that. Some of our ex-players lost their lives fighting for the UK and I'd think that their families and descendants would take grave offence if anyone thought they were lesser Celtic men as a result of that.

 

Likewise, it’s usually the ill-educated ignoramus who has never lived in a colonised territory - where the BA have a fierce reputation for raping, pillaging, savagery and slaughter – who are most ignorant about such issues.

Why would anyone who is a Celtic fan want to be apart of something so despicable?

Emma Groves was shot in the face (and subsequently blinded) by 'one of your brave lads' as she listened to a record player in her own home.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Groves

 

So you would rather not we fight (and die) for people who cannot fight for themselves? i.e Afghanistan.
Would you rather we left the country the way it was with Taliban rule, no rights for women, no education, no music, no books, nothing.
Iraq where the so-called leader would mass murder whole races of people with gas, deprive them of water etc.
Maybe you should go live there for a while if you would rather not we try and make it a better place for people. Then see how you felt.
The majority of people in those two countries do want the armies there, because of a few roadside bombs does not mean the whole country wants the world to * off and leave them to get slaughtered. They want change, they want better lifes, who wouldnt?

You make it sound like 1800's when we were still out there expanding the empire.

 

We could ask the same of any Celtic fan wanting to join the IRA and we could then fill the thread with images of IRA victims, but that would be going off topic...as you're now doing....so keep it on topic and we'll all be happier.

 

Raping and pillaging?

And why would Celtic fans support terrorists? What has that got to do wi football?

While unfortunate, how do you know for sure that was the British Army? Do they have their name on the rounds?
7.62 was the common round used in those days, could have come from anywhere during a firefight.... i doubt a soldier leaned in her window and popped one off at her, do you?

 

My father got called up to the british army when he was young and was posted in cyprus. he got shot at and lost a close friend.

in no way has this got anything else todo with being a celtic fan. he is a staunch celtic fan and hates the queen as much as the next.

and from the best of knowledge if yo have family in Ireland who are catholic etc then you very very very very very rarly get posted there.

IMO if there is a celtic fan brave enough to make a carear out of the army MODERN DAY then good on them. they dont choose the wars in iraq, afgan or anywhere else, but its because people volunteer that conscription isnt brought back in!


I am a republican FOR IRELAND however as i live and was born in england it does not mean i cannot appreciate the lads who join the army now wo know nothing about ireland and dont know where they will get sent.

 

The thread is about the BA, not the IRA. Your decision to introduce them is off-topic.

Posting images of victims of the BA, in a thread about the BA, seems quite relevant - whether it’s an uncomfortable truth or not

 

A wee reminder of the OP...

Now, that wasn't an open invite to start posting images or perceived injustices allegedly committed by the British Army...no matter how much you think it is, so again.....and for the final time....keep it on topic. Now I don't care whether that's an uncomfortable truth or not for you to get your head around, but I strongly suggest you take heed of the advice and final warning to keep the thread on topic.

 

Maybe there are people that do want to fight for britain and still are passionate Celtic fans. I think it's possible because Celtic is a football club and not a political or religious institute. In that case it's open to anyone be it protestant, catholic, republican or loyalist. Isn't that a good thing?

 

What is it about such horrendous crimes that you find so amusing?

I know of no Celtic fan that supports the BA and their active campaign of terror in the middle-east.

Squirming.

There was no "firefight" and plastic bullets were not used by any other faction bar the RUC, BA and UDR – all armed facets of the State.

The BA were rampaging through innocent Nationalists' homes; Emma Groves put on a record player and was shot at point blank through her window by a plastic bullet.

The BA paid her compensation for the injury.

Oh no, but it was probably some naughty kids from down the street

 

Closed - completely off topic after several warnings were given.